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Sanheim

Créé par: WpgJts
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 20 déc. 2023
Publié: 20 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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WPG
  1. Konecny, Travis (850 000 $ retained)
  2. Sanheim, Travis
PHI
  1. Appleton, Mason
  2. Lucius, Chaz
  3. Pionk, Neal
  4. Stanley, Logan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 27
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Obvious and easy no for Winnipeg. They have absolutely zero need for Sanheim and his contract and one year of Konecny isn't worth that much. Terrible.
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20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 28
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Can't see Winnipeg buying in on Sanheim and Konecny.
20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 29
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Remove Sanheim, Apples, Pionk, and one of the 1sts
Also, while I really want Konecny on the Jets, the only reason WPG would need Konecny is if they move Ehlers in a deal for a top pairing RHD.
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20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: Windjammer
Obvious and easy no for Winnipeg. They have absolutely zero need for Sanheim and his contract and one year of Konecny isn't worth that much. Terrible.


It's not one year of Konecny, man.
20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 45
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It's not one year of Konecny, man.


Yeah it is. It's part of this year, probably figuring at the TDL and one full year.
20 déc. 2023 à 21 h 53
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Yeah it is. It's part of this year, probably figuring at the TDL and one full year.


why wouldn't he extend to be on a good team finally?
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 27
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why wouldn't he extend to be on a good team finally?


Because how often has a big name UFA chosen to sign in Winnipeg, outside of players that have players in Winnipeg a few years?
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 27
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Yeah it is. It's part of this year, probably figuring at the TDL and one full year.


Are you being serious right now? "Part of this year" is a funny way to describe almost 60 games, especially when you're trying to make out like that part is 0%. And nobody said anything about the TDL. And even if they did, it's still two playoff runs, so again NOT one year by any wild stretch of the imagination.

Why do people even try fudging such things? I do not get it.
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20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 29
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Quoting: Windjammer
Because how often has a big name UFA chosen to sign in Winnipeg, outside of players that have players in Winnipeg a few years?


The King's players seem to love Winnipeg, as do their number 1 center and the best goalie in the NHL smile
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 43
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Are you being serious right now? "Part of this year" is a funny way to describe almost 60 games, especially when you're trying to make out like that part is 0%. And nobody said anything about the TDL. And even if they did, it's still two playoff runs, so again NOT one year by any wild stretch of the imagination.

Why do people even try fudging such things? I do not get it.


Lol. are you serious? You whine about people fudging things and you go and round up 51 games to 60. Plus another few games lost in the trade freeze. Plus Philly has no reason to trade Konecny now when they're sitting in a playoff spot, so it's almost certainly done at the TDL if they fall out.

If you're going to take the time to try and make a silly point, don't exaggerate because you know you're nitpicking and at least use facts and try and look at what is likely to happen in reality.
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 45
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Quoting: Windjammer
Lol. are you serious? You whine about people fudging things and you go and round up 51 games to 60. Plus another few games lost in the trade freeze. Plus Philly has no reason to trade Konecny now when they're sitting in a playoff spot, so it's almost certainly done at the TDL if they fall out.

If you're going to take the time to try and make a silly point, don't exaggerate because you know you're nitpicking andat least use facts and try and look at what is likely to happen in reality.


You behave like a child, sorry, mokumboi has a point.
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 46
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The King's players seem to love Winnipeg, as do their number 1 center and the best goalie in the NHL smile


Right. And how many of them, outside of players that have played their entire career in Winnipeg, signed in Winnipeg as a UFA or sought Winnipeg out as a pending UFA?
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 50
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You behave like a child, sorry, mokumboi has a point.


No he knows he doesn't. That's why he exaggerated his point to try and make it look like he had one.

He also says 2 playoff runs, what if the most likely scenario happens and Konecny isn't willing to extend a'la Dubois and the Jets have to move him as a distressed asset?

I can't help it he can't make a credible argument.
20 déc. 2023 à 22 h 52
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Right. And how many of them, outside of players that have played their entire career in Winnipeg, signed in Winnipeg as a UFA or sought Winnipeg out as a pending UFA?


Nam, Neid, Demelo, Appleton, Brossoit....not bad considering the majority of others were drafted by Wpg
20 déc. 2023 à 23 h 1
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Nam, Neid, Demelo, Appleton, Brossoit....not bad considering the majority of others were drafted by Wpg


None were high profile UFA's that choose Winnipeg.
20 déc. 2023 à 23 h 20
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None were high profile UFA's that choose Winnipeg.


The LA players seem to like WInnipeg, as do the guys I mentioned. The stars all re-sign too. Anyway, Konecny is no Crosby or McDavid, hazard to guess the big names would take Helly in net any day of the week. Are you a Jets Troll or self-loathing fan?
20 déc. 2023 à 23 h 53
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The LA players seem to like WInnipeg, as do the guys I mentioned. The stars all re-sign too. Anyway, Konecny is no Crosby or McDavid, hazard to guess the big names would take Helly in net any day of the week. Are you a Jets Troll or self-loathing fan?


So, you're saying you can't think of any examples. I thought not.

The fact remains that of the Jets make a ridiculous overpay for 1 1/2 years of a player, make themselves much worse now and in the there and take back an awful contract in Sanheim that they have no use for, they'd have to be dead certain they can resign that player. Because not only are they giving up on this season, by severely weakening the defense and depth, but also weakening themselves in the future.

I take it that your not really a Jets fan but are just trolling Jets fans with trades that the Jets take a massive loss on.
21 déc. 2023 à 1 h 9
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Lol. are you serious? You whine about people fudging things and you go and round up 51 games to 60. Plus another few games lost in the trade freeze. Plus Philly has no reason to trade Konecny now when they're sitting in a playoff spot, so it's almost certainly done at the TDL if they fall out.

If you're going to take the time to try and make a silly point, don't exaggerate because you know you're nitpicking and at least use facts and try and look at what is likely to happen in reality.


I didn't exaggerate, I though they were closer to 25 games for some reason. Talk about nitpicking.... cool way to completely flip the framing of the point of contention. It's not one year. By any conceivable metric. That is the exaggeration in question. And mathematically, over six times larger of an exaggeration.

Why is this even a discussion? I'm baffled. We're arguing over objective fact now.
21 déc. 2023 à 11 h 0
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Overcomplicated trade with Sanheim. What would it cost for Konecny?? I think he fits perfectly on the 2nd line with one of Ehlers or KFC and Perfetti. He's a C by trade so he can help Perfetti with FO
21 déc. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Flyers would decline this your going to have to give up 4 1st round picks and 2 seconds
 
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