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If Blues want to sell

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Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 8 déc. 2023
Publié: 8 déc. 2023
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8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 33
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If they did, which they don't, that offer would not be at all competitive.
8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 33
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If they did, which they don't, that offer would not be at all competitive.


Stop
8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 37
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Stop what? Bro, you could remove Buch from the ask and the Blues still say hell no. Why do you think Pageau has any value to the Blues?
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8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 45
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That offer would get beat imho
8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Hockeypal
Stop


Quoting: mokumboi
Stop what? Bro, you could remove Buch from the ask and the Blues still say hell no. Why do you think Pageau has any value to the Blues?


A lot of teams could probably beat that islanders offer. And I don’t think the islanders have much the Blues would want to compete

Maggio is a B tier prospect, JGP has like no value, Wahlstrom is basically nothing as well. Which leaves the 1st as value
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8 déc. 2023 à 14 h 59
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Blues decline. No interest in JPG and his contract or Wahlstrom as pieces. You guys don't have the prospects we would be looking for
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8 déc. 2023 à 16 h 18
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That's a serious no from Winnipeg aswell. I mean take a chill pill my man
8 déc. 2023 à 17 h 47
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A lot of teams could probably beat that islanders offer. And I don’t think the islanders have much the Blues would want to compete

Maggio is a B tier prospect, JGP has like no value, Wahlstrom is basically nothing as well. Which leaves the 1st as value


Disagree that’s more than enough
8 déc. 2023 à 17 h 55
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Disagree that’s more than enough


Well i don’t know what to tell you but no one finds any of those assets valuable, so the trade would be easily declined lol
8 déc. 2023 à 20 h 29
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Disagree that’s more than enough


What does it accomplish for the Blues? It sets us back 3+ years. We lose a 1st liner for a long shot on a late 1st, a reclamation project, and a prospect that has very little a chance of making any impact given where our forward prospect pool is currently at all while taking on Pageaus contract.

We need young defenseman who have a good chance at being top 4 guys. Otherwise we’re better off middling and at least having a chance to be competitive in the near future.

You may be closer next deadline if he states he’s not signing with us, or we say we aren’t resigning him. Closer to what Horvat returned.
11 déc. 2023 à 0 h 21
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What does it accomplish for the Blues? It sets us back 3+ years. We lose a 1st liner for a long shot on a late 1st, a reclamation project, and a prospect that has very little a chance of making any impact given where our forward prospect pool is currently at all while taking on Pageaus contract.

We need young defenseman who have a good chance at being top 4 guys. Otherwise we’re better off middling and at least having a chance to be competitive in the near future.

You may be closer next deadline if he states he’s not signing with us, or we say we aren’t resigning him. Closer to what Horvat returned.


I mean let’s be real you’re already set back for at least 3 years they should go into a full rebuild mode this would help them so much in a rebuild
11 déc. 2023 à 2 h 38
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I mean let’s be real you’re already set back for at least 3 years they should go into a full rebuild mode this would help them so much in a rebuild


I would be fine if Doug came out tomorrow and said we were wrong with our estimated timeline and it’s looking more like a 5 year turnaround instead of a 2-3 year turnaround. And then proceeded shipping guys out.

I would be extremely unsettled if he traded our best trade asset that’s over 25 for that return and are the money on Pageau on top. We have a lot of really promising forward prospects. That’s my point. The pick is fine yeah. But adding two right wing prospects, one of which is approaching busting quickly (not saying he’s there yet or will 100% get there), and the other is more of a B-/C level prospect is underwhelming to say the least. Now factor in on top of that our two top prospects are Snuggerud and Dvorsky who are a center and a right wing, Thomas and Kyrou are locked up long term as well, and what has that left us with?

The 1st, a massive downgrade from Buch to Pageau, and an extra year of term on to the contract obligations that we had on Buchnevich.
 
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