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Big Swing

Créé par: HOCKEYBOY448
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 7 déc. 2023
Publié: 7 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
150% unrealistic, but this would be so entertaining. No hate, literally a fun idea.
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Perbix, Nick
  2. Stamkos, Steven (4 250 000 $ retained)
TBL
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Kakko, Kaapo
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Duclair, Anthony (1 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
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2383 500 000 $82 974 916 $610 892 $482 500 $525 084 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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UFA - 7
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
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NMC
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 872 000 $3 872 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
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825 000 $825 000 $ (Bonis de performance100 000 $$100K)
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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NTC
UFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
DG
UFA - 2

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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Though Stamkos is more than likely not going to waive his NMC, and TB might not be sellers like everyone thinks they will be, this might be the best offer I've seen thrown for him. Could be tough to beat if it ever was offered or realistic.
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Great trade here potentially for both parties. Wonder if Sharks gave another team a 4th or 5th rounder that they would do the retention for SJ so they could have one slot remaining for another deal?
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 3
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If New York offered this. Tampa would be BEGGING Stamkos to waive. That package is way too big for New York to consider.
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 4
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FYI.. Harpur is done for the year so might want to use a different 7D
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: Brolekb2b
Though Stamkos is more than likely not going to waive his NMC, and TB might not be sellers like everyone thinks they will be, this might be the best offer I've seen thrown for him. Could be tough to beat if it ever was offered or realistic.


Quoting: jakdonaghy
Great trade here potentially for both parties. Wonder if Sharks gave another team a 4th or 5th rounder that they would do the retention for SJ so they could have one slot remaining for another deal?


Thanks for the comments. I’m a big fan of both teams and I really like it from both sides. Might be just what the Rangers need to get over the hump with another top 6 option who can play all 3 positions. Tampa can restock with some younger guys as well, banking some on potential, but still decent value and it doesn’t gut the Rangers system. Appreciate the discussion.
7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: Rags21
FYI.. Harpur is done for the year so might want to use a different 7D


Missed it, what happened?
7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 7
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If New York offered this. Tampa would be BEGGING Stamkos to waive. That package is way too big for New York to consider.


I'm one of the biggest Stamkos supporters and would love him to be a lifetime Bolt, but if an offer like this comes along and you look at how this addresses so much of your needs while shipping out Perbix, it would be REALLY tough to say no
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 8
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If New York offered this. Tampa would be BEGGING Stamkos to waive. That package is way too big for New York to consider.


Iit might be, but it’s a big swing and done with the hope of resigning Stammer for a few more years. Ironically we’d have $18 mil in cap space to sign Stammer and Lindgren and fill out the team so not terrible. Plus we still keep Othmann and Perrault, does hurt losing Schneider, but you gotta give to get.
7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: Brolekb2b
I'm one of the biggest Stamkos supporters and would love him to be a lifetime Bolt, but if an offer like this comes along and you look at how this addresses so much of your needs while shipping out Perbix, it would be REALLY tough to say no


I really see this as a beneficial one. Bolts get younger, while Rangers make that big push while all of our core guys are in their prime. I love it.
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7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 14
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Missed it, what happened?


Happened awhile ago, but I think he tore his pec. Shoulder surgery or something
7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: Rags21
Happened awhile ago, but I think he tore his pec. Shoulder surgery or something


Damn, you know what that does sound familiar. Rough injury.
7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 54
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I don't like this trade at all for the Rangers. Mortgaging the future like that for an albeit still elite but aging and rental Stammer is one of the last moves I would do. I would guarantee that Drury agrees with me
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7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: crimsonchin23
I don't like this trade at all for the Rangers. Mortgaging the future like that for an albeit still elite but aging and rental Stammer is one of the last moves I would do. I would guarantee that Drury agrees with me


Well like it or not, they are considerably better with Stamkos currently than with both Chytil and Kakko. Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Trocheck aren’t getting any younger.
7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 9
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Well like it or not, they are considerably better with Stamkos currently than with both Chytil and Kakko. Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Trocheck aren’t getting any younger.


Kakko has been meh so whatever on that front. But I think Chytil is fantastic when healthy, and you're forgetting about Schneider and the two firsts which is the majority of the value in this deal.
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7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Too many young players moving away from the team, in my opinion. I'm not crazy about sending all of the Fil, Kakko and Schneids away.
7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 35
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Why would you trade a younger Trouba(Schneider)?
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8 déc. 2023 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: NYR_Biggest_Fan
Why would you trade a younger Trouba(Schneider)?


Quoting: AG_sweden
Too many young players moving away from the team, in my opinion. I'm not crazy about sending all of the Fil, Kakko and Schneids away.


Quoting: crimsonchin23
Kakko has been meh so whatever on that front. But I think Chytil is fantastic when healthy, and you're forgetting about Schneider and the two firsts which is the majority of the value in this deal.


There’s no guarantee Schneider actually will become Trouba. Plus you can’t actually believe it’d be smart to trade Trouba in the next year or so while he’s the captain and in the prime of his career. And Stamkos is far superior than Kakko and Chytil in our window to win.
9 déc. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Well like it or not, they are considerably better with Stamkos currently than with both Chytil and Kakko. Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Trocheck aren’t getting any younger.


Sure because both are injured. Chytil was playing very well before that, and moving kakko now is a sell low move. The rangers have shown they're willing to be patient and not sell low.
This move absolutely ruins the rangers depth which is a huge thing when trying to make a run in the playoffs.
10 déc. 2023 à 15 h 9
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Sure because both are injured. Chytil was playing very well before that, and moving kakko now is a sell low move. The rangers have shown they're willing to be patient and not sell low.
This move absolutely ruins the rangers depth which is a huge thing when trying to make a run in the playoffs.


That depth you speak of has never done anything when it’s counted. How many more years of Panarin, Zibanejad and Kreider are we going to waste? It’s foolish to keep waiting for tomorrow when the best forwards on the team are already at 30 or beyond 30.
11 déc. 2023 à 12 h 22
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That depth you speak of has never done anything when it’s counted. How many more years of Panarin, Zibanejad and Kreider are we going to waste? It’s foolish to keep waiting for tomorrow when the best forwards on the team are already at 30 or beyond 30.


And heres the problem. I dont think its the panarin mika and kreider that will cause us to win a championship. Those three have done the bulk of the offensive lifting since 2019, and we've gone 2 rounds total in the playoffs.
Depth scoring is beyond valuable in the playoffs, and the depth i speak of hasn't done anything when its counted?? Are you kidding? in 22 when the kids were absolutely monsters in the playoffs and our best line, we won games.
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: slater417
And heres the problem. I dont think its the panarin mika and kreider that will cause us to win a championship. Those three have done the bulk of the offensive lifting since 2019, and we've gone 2 rounds total in the playoffs.
Depth scoring is beyond valuable in the playoffs, and the depth i speak of hasn't done anything when its counted?? Are you kidding? in 22 when the kids were absolutely monsters in the playoffs and our best line, we won games.


I highly doubt we have a better chance winning a cup with Chytil Laf and Kakko than with Panarin, Mika and Kreider at the forefront. That’s not even wishful thinking that’s just foolish. What happens when Lindgren, Miller and Shesty need to get paid, the depth is gonna get worse. Unless we get some Tage Thompson esque breakouts I just can’t see it, but I admire your optimism.
 
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