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Part 1 Mediocrity Continues until March

Créé par: Pens3lieve
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2023
Publié: 6 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This post assumes the Pens continue their below .500 trajectory and sit over 5 points out of a WC spot at the TDL, which is not hard to imagine happening if the power play continues to be awful, the goaltending and few players actually playing well regress, and other playoff-caliber teams begin to separate themselves from the pack.

-All pending UFAs with at least late-round-pick value get moved.
-All other non-core pieces are made available
-The Pens end up finishing bottom-10 in the league, thus they exercise their right to keep their 2024 1st round pick and opt to send their 2025 1st to San Jose
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
SJS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Pens finish bottom-10, they keep the 2024 1st and send the 2025 1st to SJS
2.
PIT
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
5.
PIT
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
VAN
  1. O'Connor, Drew
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
*the lower of PIT's 2024 2nds
6.
NYI
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
7.
PIT
    EX. SURPRISE TEAM with Cap Space that wants vets
    ARI
      Jeff Carter
      Tyler Myers w retention

      for this post's cap situation, one of them would have to be moved...... i placed both on LTIR but there is cap room for one of them
      8.
      PIT
      DET
      1. Foegele, Warren
      Détails additionnels:
      to any team for a late pick
      9.
      PIT
      1. Dvorak, Jakub
      2. Pinelli, Francesco
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
      Détails additionnels:
      EX. Team that will be going for it for sure
      Other ideas i had were COL, VGK, VAN, FLA

      prospects listed i don't know a ton abt...
      THW has Pinelli as their #5 prospect and Dvorak as their #8
      LAK
      1. Guentzel, Jake
      2. Harkins, Jansen
      Détails additionnels:
      PIT would retain up to 50% whatever is necessary
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2024
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de LAK
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de DAL
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de NYR
      2025
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      2026
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2383 500 000 $75 901 800 $0 $0 $7 598 200 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Islanders de New York
      874 125 $874 125 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
      AD, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      863 333 $863 333 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      785 000 $785 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      AD, AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
      AD, C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      Équipe de réserve
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
      900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
      845 000 $845 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
      C
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AG, C
      UFA - 2

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      6 déc. 2023 à 10 h 16
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      leafs maybe accept but they gotta address the defence before anything else
      6 déc. 2023 à 10 h 18
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      You can keep Nieto and Leafs will keep their 5th

      Leafs have no use for another small forward
      6 déc. 2023 à 10 h 43
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      Quoting: Brad_Treliving
      You can keep Nieto and Leafs will keep their 5th

      Leafs have no use for another small forward


      mmmk nieto struck me as a treliving-type of player for the sandpaper game he plays
      6 déc. 2023 à 10 h 44
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      leafs maybe accept but they gotta address the defence before anything else


      yeah aside from ruhwedel or POJ we don't have alot to offer...
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      6 déc. 2023 à 11 h 14
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      This is probably what will happen I think. Assume they'd trade Peterson as well and I think he'd bring back a 1st +
      6 déc. 2023 à 11 h 29
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      The Canucks have already stated that they don't plan on moving their 1st rounder, which means I doubt they would move it just to offload a player on an expiring contract who is playing ~18-20 minutes per night for them and is quite useful when put in the right situations. Is he overpaid? Yeah. Is he worth trading a high pick to dump cap at this point, not unless the return coming back tangibly upgrades the team.
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      6 déc. 2023 à 14 h 9
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      shocking to no one, jeff carter declines. (plus no one wants him even at 50%)

      Kings would need to move cap somehow, whether that's a player to the penguins, or a 3rd team they have basically no cap space. Even then they'd probably need a 3rd team to retain 1.5M on Jake.

      The penguins are going to possibly be in a huge bind IF they become sellers this season.

      Only 5 teams have $3M+ in cap space at the moment (CBJ, NSH, BUF, ANA, CHI) and I can't see any of them being buyers at the deadline on rentals.

      If the pens sell they're going to need buyers in a playoff hunt to have significant cap on LTIR.

      Jake, Pettersson and Ned will be your big three, any depth guy on final year as mentioned.

      It's almost impossible to speculate on anything at this point with how tight most the divisions are and with how little cap space teams have.
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      6 déc. 2023 à 14 h 48
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      Quoting: pensfan21
      This is probably what will happen I think. Assume they'd trade Peterson as well and I think he'd bring back a 1st +


      Quoting: pens1991
      shocking to no one, jeff carter declines. (plus no one wants him even at 50%)

      Kings would need to move cap somehow, whether that's a player to the penguins, or a 3rd team they have basically no cap space. Even then they'd probably need a 3rd team to retain 1.5M on Jake.

      The penguins are going to possibly be in a huge bind IF they become sellers this season.

      Only 5 teams have $3M+ in cap space at the moment (CBJ, NSH, BUF, ANA, CHI) and I can't see any of them being buyers at the deadline on rentals.

      If the pens sell they're going to need buyers in a playoff hunt to have significant cap on LTIR.

      Jake, Pettersson and Ned will be your big three, any depth guy on final year as mentioned.

      It's almost impossible to speculate on anything at this point with how tight most the divisions are and with how little cap space teams have.


      if we move pettersson, then i feel it signals a bigger rebuild... hes turned into a legit 1st pairing defensive d-man and if dubas plans to keep this team competitive we don't move him... UNLESS he demands over like $6M or something crazy... but yeah it would be a mess if we are terrible this year...
      6 déc. 2023 à 17 h 7
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      Quoting: Pens3lieve
      if we move pettersson, then i feel it signals a bigger rebuild... hes turned into a legit 1st pairing defensive d-man and if dubas plans to keep this team competitive we don't move him... UNLESS he demands over like $6M or something crazy... but yeah it would be a mess if we are terrible this year...


      Oh I don't doubt Petty's status as a legit 1st pairing guys. He's having another phenomenal year.

      I just question what this year and the next 1-2 seasons hold.... The only real prospects the pens have right now are Yager and Pickering (maybe Poulin, but I'd like to see him have time this season in the NHL).

      I can't see Yager being on the team until the 2025/26 season (maybe he gets a taste late next season assuming he's in the A). Pickering i'd guess the same for.

      With such a lack of prospect depth I'm curious to see what Dubas does in that 1-2 season period. He's been honest about wanting to compete while restocking. So that to me says Pickering/Yager aren't moving and most likely neither is a 1st unless it benefits the tteam now and long term.

      If the cap is $87.7M next season they'll have about $18-19M in space as things stand today i think, but if they don't make drastic moves this year that's some nice money to play with as they'd need a backup, 4 forwards and 2 defenseman (6/7th guy)
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      6 déc. 2023 à 17 h 28
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      Oh I don't doubt Petty's status as a legit 1st pairing guys. He's having another phenomenal year.

      I just question what this year and the next 1-2 seasons hold.... The only real prospects the pens have right now are Yager and Pickering (maybe Poulin, but I'd like to see him have time this season in the NHL).

      I can't see Yager being on the team until the 2025/26 season (maybe he gets a taste late next season assuming he's in the A). Pickering i'd guess the same for.

      With such a lack of prospect depth I'm curious to see what Dubas does in that 1-2 season period. He's been honest about wanting to compete while restocking. So that to me says Pickering/Yager aren't moving and most likely neither is a 1st unless it benefits the tteam now and long term.

      If the cap is $87.7M next season they'll have about $18-19M in space as things stand today i think, but if they don't make drastic moves this year that's some nice money to play with as they'd need a backup, 4 forwards and 2 defenseman (6/7th guy)


      Yeah everything you just said I agree with and I’m exploring all of that 😂 rn with my part 2/3 posts that will be out in the next day or two… the cap space and flexibility will be there and yeah there will def be pieces we can move to speed up a rebuild/retool or whatever this quasi limbo state of being wild card competitive but not being a top team is…..
      6 déc. 2023 à 18 h 25
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      Quoting: Pens3lieve
      if we move pettersson, then i feel it signals a bigger rebuild... hes turned into a legit 1st pairing defensive d-man and if dubas plans to keep this team competitive we don't move him... UNLESS he demands over like $6M or something crazy... but yeah it would be a mess if we are terrible this year...


      I do agree, but I think if we sell this TDL then we rebuild this offseason. Our chances will be worse and worse every year from here on out. If we aren't competitive this year don't see why management would think next year would be better
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