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Créé par: EQuinn31
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 22 nov. 2023
Publié: 22 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 148
Saison restante: 77%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 89 846 458 $
Description
3 Team Trade involving NYI/ARI/MTL
Trade to EDM for the extra goalie
Shipped out Allen to NJ, but this could happen anywhere

Main trade is the 3 team trade. And it is Cap compliant
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Fowler, Jacob [Liste de réserve]
  3. Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
ARI
  1. Anderson, Josh
Détails additionnels:
50% Retained
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de SJS
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
Logo de WSH
Logo de BOS
2025
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de PIT
Logo de MTL
Logo de VAN
Logo de EDM
Logo de NJD
Logo de MTL
Logo de DET
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2026
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $72 264 583 $1 170 000 $4 082 500 $11 235 417 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $6 051 042 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $6 070 313 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
835 000 $643 646 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 250 000 $2 505 208 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $3 430 208 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $5 010 417 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 900 000 $2 235 417 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 985 000 $1 530 104 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $732 292 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $626 302 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 310 417 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
775 000 $597 396 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $3 757 813 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $732 292 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $3 083 333 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
867 500 $668 698 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $590 972 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $665 486 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
859 167 $662 275 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $770 833 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $638 507 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $2 697 917 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $8 093 750 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $2 591 927 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 079 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $587 760 $
DD
UFA - 1

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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 42
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Why would New Jersey want Allen?
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 43
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That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: SadSensFan14
Why would New Jersey want Allen?


Devils have a .875 sv% so far this season
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 46
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That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years


Devils would sell everything for Sorokin. This offer gets beat by them easily.
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: SadSensFan14
Why would New Jersey want Allen?


Thye have had eh Goal tending, I honestly just picked a team that needed goal tending help
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 47
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The market on 4 mill 1Bs isn't that.

Maybe with 50% retention you could hope to get that based on the desmith comp
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 48
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Again the market on AHL caliber goalies isn't a 3rd.

Monty-3rd
Allen 50%-3rd
Primeau-6th/7th
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Icelander24
That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years


I think the Value is there, but I agree. I doubt the Islanders would actually do it. What else would need to be added to make it worth it you think?

They are getting a young top 4 Defensemen, a young goalie prospect whos been great so far, a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a flyer on RHP as a middle 6, bottom 6 guy. Plus the team gets younger. They are going to have to do something with how old the team is, and the bad contracts.
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 49
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I don't think anybody is interested in Anderson right now.
And MTL is certainly not interested in retaining on him for 4 years.

Honestly, I'd rather have him at 5.5M than play against him for 2.75M
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: dgibb10
Again the market on AHL caliber goalies isn't a 3rd.

Monty-3rd
Allen 50%-3rd
Primeau-6th/7th


Most of these trades are if we were to get Sorokin, at that point the value we get back is probably not much. Ive seen Habs fans say we could get a 1st for Allen which I think is crazy lol
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
I don't think anybody is interested in Anderson right now.
And MTL is certainly not interested in retaining on him for 4 years.

Honestly, I'd rather have him at 5.5M than play against him for 2.75M


Anderson's contract would have to be moved to fit the Sorokin deal. Thats why I moved him out. I see what your saying tho
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 51
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I think the Value is there, but I agree. I doubt the Islanders would actually do it. What else would need to be added to make it worth it you think?

They are getting a young top 4 Defensemen, a young goalie prospect whos been great so far, a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a flyer on RHP as a middle 6, bottom 6 guy. Plus the team gets younger. They are going to have to do something with how old the team is, and the bad contracts.


Barron-2nd
Fowler-3rd
RHP-4th
1st+3rd

You're probably offering 2 1sts of value, which simply isn't enough for Sorokin
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22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 52
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It would cost more than a 7th to take Anderson's contract. He isn't on LTIR, so I doubt the yotes would want to pay his salary
22 nov. 2023 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: dgibb10
Barron-2nd
Fowler-3rd
RHP-4th
1st+3rd

You're probably offering 2 1sts of value, which simply isn't enough for Sorokin


I would say Sorokin's value is probably 3 1sts, which I'd throw another 1st rounder in there in '25 if that is what it would take
22 nov. 2023 à 14 h 0
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I would say Sorokin's value is probably 3 1sts, which I'd throw another 1st rounder in there in '25 if that is what it would take


Yeah but NYI isn't going to want a collection of assets that add up to a 1st. They'll want true top assets.
22 nov. 2023 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils would sell everything for Sorokin. This offer gets beat by them easily.


They would, but Lou doesn't trade in his own division.
22 nov. 2023 à 16 h 49
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Quoting: slater417
They would, but Lou doesn't trade in his own division.


Lou has made 16 total trades in his time in NYI

4 were depth/nothing trades
3 were cap dumps

Of the remaining 9
Toews to Avs
JGP from Sens
Matt Martin from leafs (i was tempted to call this one depth/nothing)
Andy Greene from NJD
Palmeri and Zajac from NJD
Leddy to detroit
Romanov from MTL
Horvat from Van
Engvall from Tor

Those are 2 pretty significant trades with NJD
22 nov. 2023 à 19 h 59
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Hmm funny how you can turn off cap space. no thanks on that Full contract of Allen. Stolarz is cheaper would go trade for him, if you are thinking a 3rd with no retain to a team who doesnt have the capspace.
 
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