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Créé par: calgaryman
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 20 nov. 2023
Publié: 20 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Moser, J.J.
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 425 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Duehr, Walker
  2. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
COL
  1. Vladar, Daniel (1 100 000 $ retained)
4.
CGY
  1. Fehérváry, Martin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
5.
CGY
  1. Klingberg, John
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita (1 855 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (CGY)
6.
CGY
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Dubé, Dillon (1 150 000 $ retained)
  2. Klapka, Adam
  3. Tatar, Tomas
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de CGY
Logo de ARI
Logo de VAN
Logo de WSH
Logo de TOR
Logo de NYI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2025
Logo de FLA
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2026
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $84 831 666 $0 $227 500 $-1 331 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
886 667 $886 667 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 675 000 $2 675 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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20 nov. 2023 à 6 h 11
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Lost me on the last 2 trades.

CGY only takes Klingberg to get the 1st out of tor, why would you give up 2 3rds? Zadorov is probably worth a really good 3rd or a late 2nd with retention, or a 1st with a cap dump like Klingberg, but again, why would you add 2 3rds?

Pageau and a 1st is not worth those players, who are collectively meh AND 2 2nds. So forget the 2 3rds in the TOR deal and dont do the NYI deal and while you've only lost 1 1st and a middling 3C, you've gained 2 2nds and 2 3rds. Its just too much for Pageau, who NYI probably needs to shed his salary anyways

Also, you can only retain on 3 players, not the 6 you have above, which changes things dramatically.

And bear in mind theres only so much icetime/development time at any given point and you'd rather have your picks spread through a few years, rather than 1 year of 6 1sts and not much else over the next few years/rounds.
20 nov. 2023 à 6 h 42
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You only have 3 retention slots so that doesn’t work

Everything feels like a bit of an overpay to me though
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20 nov. 2023 à 7 h 3
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Moser isn't going anywhere, he's just as valuable or more valuable than Hanifin on the open market.

I might be sleeping on Feheravy, but even if he's an amazing DFD, that's not the return that CGY should be looking to get out of Lindholm.
20 nov. 2023 à 7 h 15
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Absolutely not from the Avs. Vladar is worth at best a mid round pick.
20 nov. 2023 à 7 h 17
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Quoting: Hammerwise

CGY only takes Klingberg to get the 1st out of tor, why would you give up 2 3rds? Zadorov is probably worth a really good 3rd or a late 2nd with retention, or a 1st with a cap dump like Klingberg, but again, why would you add 2 3rds?


Even if those two CGY 3rds end up up being 65 OV and the Leafs' 1st 32OV the difference is still a 2nd pick (17-18), so it's like getting the Leafs 2nd+ a 3rd (75th OV) for Zadorov. So, it's a pretty good deal for the Flames considering that in a bubble Klingberg is probably just as valuable as Zadorov, and the fact that there's a lot of upside to him but if he doesn't do well then it doesn't matter since his deal is expiring.
20 nov. 2023 à 7 h 27
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There's no reason for Arizona to trade a first for Hanifin - they're on the bubble for a playoff spot, he's a rental that likely would not re-sign there, and he has an 8-team no-trade that 99% has Arizona on it.
There's no reason to make that big of a push when they're still building.
20 nov. 2023 à 8 h 15
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Canucks pass.Not trading our first for Tanev.Hes 34 often injured and past his prime.Hes also a UFA at seasons end. we can keep our pick n sign him then IF we sign him.Just my opinion.
20 nov. 2023 à 8 h 58
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Caps pass. The only players they'd be interested in from CGY would be Mangiapane and Andersson.
20 nov. 2023 à 9 h 4
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Selling low on all Flames players. Also teams can only have 3 retained salaries on the books at once.
20 nov. 2023 à 20 h 37
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Avs decline
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