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Créé par: WranglerWranglin
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 17 nov. 2023
Publié: 17 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Klimovich, Danila
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st Round Pick if Vancouver makes the WCF and Tanev plays 75% of the games (Injury protection)

Boom/Bust prospect, ton of skill that hasn't really translated yet, big body right winger where Calgary is thin in depth
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. McConnell-Barker, Bryce
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Worst case scenario, Chytil is out for the season. Rangers run:
Zibanejad
Trocheck
Lindholm

If Chytil L(ightning)TIR's it right to the playoffs then Lindholm can slide to the right wing for the post season

I think this would equate to a low 1st and a couple 2nds?

Projected middle 6 prospect with a high motor, good numbers in the O last year and this year, big body.

Last chance U for Jones, gets a ton of minutes in Calgary.
NYR
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Pure rental deal depending on Chytil's outlook with concussion
3.
CGY
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Wanner, Maximus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Oilers get out of Ceci's deal for next season at the cost of a 2nd round pick, clear up space for the upcoming off season.
EDM
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Détails additionnels:
Flames add a big, slow developing responsible D prospect that is a change up from the Poirier, Morin puck moving D on the left side.

Flames get to watch their friend to the North ride the Zad-coaster all the way to a wildcard spot.
4.
CGY
  1. Lipkin, Sam [Liste de réserve]
  2. Söderström, Victor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Top 5 protected pick

Lipkin played with Coronato in 2020 - 21in Chicago.
ARI
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Hanifin extends 7.5 x 8

I like this deal more and more.
5.
CGY
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Sent to a team in the playoff hunt
BOS
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony (2 075 000 $ retained)
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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825 000 $825 000 $
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UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 1
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C
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 1

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17 nov. 2023 à 13 h 47
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I’d rather add another pick than lose BMB. Rangers have 0 center prospects
17 nov. 2023 à 13 h 52
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I’d rather add another pick than lose BMB. Rangers have 0 center prospects


Funny I have the same thought about the Flames.. haha, they have a few they can slide to the middle like Honzek and Zary but I worry about their C depth going forward. I would prefer the Flames target prospects instead of picks, Sykora maybe?? What would you value BMB at? 2nd round pick?
17 nov. 2023 à 13 h 54
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Arizona deal would max out at (2) 2nd round picks and a prospect (maybe 2 prospects if one of them is a c tier or below)

Pretty sure the Calgary asking price is why AZ called off their scouts. 3 AZ pro scouts were at every game for about 2 weeks then they all got recalled.
17 nov. 2023 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
Funny I have the same thought about the Flames.. haha, they have a few they can slide to the middle like Honzek and Zary but I worry about their C depth going forward. I would prefer the Flames target prospects instead of picks, Sykora maybe?? What would you value BMB at? 2nd round pick?


They drafted him in the 3rd. Right now it’s hard to value him but the NYR seems to like the type of player he is and hope he becomes a 3C.

But then again it’s tricky because if Chytil’s career is in jeopardy, then they might need him to be ready sooner. Obviously if he’s fine, then Mika-Chytil-Trocheck would be their centers for 3+ years
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17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 0
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Arizona deal would max out at (2) 2nd round picks and a prospect (maybe 2 prospects if one of them is a c tier or below)

Pretty sure the Calgary asking price is why AZ called off their scouts. 3 AZ pro scouts were at every game for about 2 weeks then they all got recalled.


2 seconds and a top end prospect would be better than the deal above in my mind. Outside of the big dogs in the system which prospect could you see Arizona make available? Lamoureux/Geekie/Duda?
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 0
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There’s about a 0 percent chance Arizona is moving their 1st this year. Injuries are wrecking the team. We’ll make a run at Hanafin in free agency
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 1
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That is a horrible return for Lindholm

Idk why you are giving Zadorov to Edmonton for free

Beauvillier at 50% is worth more than a 4th
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 2
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There’s about a 0 percent chance Arizona is moving their 1st this year. Injuries are wrecking the team. We’ll make a run at Hanafin in free agency


That's fair, as mentioned above what would you think about 2 2nds and better prospect??
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 13
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Seems like a realistic price for a retained Tanev with the conditions on the pick.
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17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 14
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That is a horrible return for Lindholm

Idk why you are giving Zadorov to Edmonton for free

Beauvillier at 50% is worth more than a 4th


Lets not pretend he was on pace for more than 45 point before last night. He's played his way into a corner where he's going to want money that no one is going to give him and hit the market to the highest bidder regardless of where he goes at the deadline.

Zadorov pulling a prospect and a second at full pop is not out of this world underselling him. Taking on Ceci is hardly detrimental.

Meh, maybe!
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 28
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I came to this post thinking I would see a delusional fan overvaluing every trade. Very fair value for each trade.
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 53
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Lets not pretend he was on pace for more than 45 point before last night. He's played his way into a corner where he's going to want money that no one is going to give him and hit the market to the highest bidder regardless of where he goes at the deadline.

Zadorov pulling a prospect and a second at full pop is not out of this world underselling him. Taking on Ceci is hardly detrimental.

Meh, maybe!


Im not saying Lindholm has played amazing in this early season but he's dirt cheap (especially if we retain) and has a track record for being a very good 2-way center. That alone will garner a load of interest, especially from teams who need that type of player (Boston, Minnesota, Detroit, etc)

He's also not going to be traded for at least another 2 months so last nights game will absolutely be part of the "price." If he's at a 60-70 point pace by the deadline playing with no star players then nobody is going to point at 1 game and say ignore that one because he had 3 points.

As for the Zadorov trade, you said yourself in the trade that the 2nd was to dump Ceci. So you are giving them Zadorov for what is likely a career AHLer. I don't mind taking on Ceci for a 2nd if we have the roster spot and cap space but we can trade Zadorov elsewhere for value too
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17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 13
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Pretty good deal for Edmonton
17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 14
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Im not saying Lindholm has played amazing in this early season but he's dirt cheap (especially if we retain) and has a track record for being a very good 2-way center. That alone will garner a load of interest, especially from teams who need that type of player (Boston, Minnesota, Detroit, etc)

He's also not going to be traded for at least another 2 months so last nights game will absolutely be part of the "price." If he's at a 60-70 point pace by the deadline playing with no star players then nobody is going to point at 1 game and say ignore that one because he had 3 points.

As for the Zadorov trade, you said yourself in the trade that the 2nd was to dump Ceci. So you are giving them Zadorov for what is likely a career AHLer. I don't mind taking on Ceci for a 2nd if we have the roster spot and cap space but we can trade Zadorov elsewhere for value too


Timeline of the deal obviously a huge factor.
17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 49
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2 seconds and a top end prospect would be better than the deal above in my mind. Outside of the big dogs in the system which prospect could you see Arizona make available? Lamoureux/Geekie/Duda?


Maybe a guy like Jan Jenik or Victor Soderstrom. Both quality prospects that are close to breaking into the league.
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17 nov. 2023 à 16 h 7
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in my opinion the canucks should do this trade. i like klim but he's a luxary type prospect. trading away this years first would be worth it if it means a wcf appearance.

Tanev's existing relationship with current roster players, chemistry with hughes, and the fact he is a top 4 RHD makes him the perfect target

should be an easy yes for allvin and co.
17 nov. 2023 à 21 h 16
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I’d rather add another pick than lose BMB. Rangers have 0 center prospects


If hypothetically Chytil is done for life(I doubt this is the case tbh). This gives NYR the best lineup down the middle in the league which beside goaltending is the most important thing in playoffs. And if Chytil plays next season(or this) we still have 1-3C covered. If not, we could easily pick someone up in UFA for 3C to bridge till we draft and develop a good C. Zibby, troch are locked in for awhile. Hopefully Chytil is ok for the long haul but finding a 3C with 4M will be easy
 
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