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Créé par: jruf
Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2023
Publié: 15 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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UFAANSCAP HIT
32 750 000 $
Transactions
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STL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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  1. Binnington, Jordan
  2. Scandella, Marco (1 600 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (STL)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (STL)
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STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
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STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Faulk, Justin
Détails additionnels:
i dont know what team to send him to but the value is what i want
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15 nov. 2023 à 11 h 41
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Parayko is 30 Bouchard is 24

Parayko is on one the worst contracts in the league Bouchard can be resigned at 26 to a way better deal and will be fully developed by then


Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 5
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Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft


Age has everything to do with value what r u talking about haha I lost brain cells reading that comment
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 6
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Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft

Parayko is gonna be getting 6.5 at 38 it’s a brutal contract and Bouchard holds way more value because he is younger lmao this comment is a big L
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 10
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Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft


Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 30
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Ur pretty delusional when it comes to the value of Parayko and binnington and yes Bouchard holds a lot more value then parayko and is a lot younger and still has time to improve his game on the defensive end and binnington imo is just an avg goalie on an ok contract not great but not terrible and parayko contract is absolutely horrendous with that term left


I feel a least a first for Parayko is fair
I also feel that binner should at least get a decent return, he’s been very good this year and most of his career
Maybe not a first but close to it at least
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15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 30
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Let's see him keep it up. When he is on he is a good goalie, then he becomes the hulk and can't save a beach ball


Dude. Just admit you have no idea what you're on about. Good grief.
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 31
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I feel a least a first for Parayko is fair
I also feel that binner should at least get a decent return, he’s been very good this year and most of his career
Maybe not a first but close to it at least

100% parayko is worth a first maybe a prospect aswell
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15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 31
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Age has everything to do with value what r u talking about haha I lost brain cells reading that comment


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Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao


Bedard does not hold more value than Matthews 💀💀😭😭
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 33
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The fact you think parayko contract is a good contract is pretty laughable to me

Parayko is on one the worst contracts in the league


Bruh. You clearly have not the foggiest clue what you're on about. Stop pretending already.
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 33
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Dude. Just admit you have no idea what you're on about. Good grief.


Ow so he's been consistent since singing that contract? Hasn't been a problem at all? Lol
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 34
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Bedard does not hold more value than Matthews 💀💀😭😭


Bedard easily holds more value than matthews Hahha matthews is gonna be massively overpaid next year.

hawks get a guaranteed 7 more years of Bedard and will probably get him at better cap hit then 13 million
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 35
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Bruh. You clearly have not the foggiest clue what you're on about. Stop pretending already.

You would be delusional to think otherwise Hahha parayko contract is horrendous give ur head a shake
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 44
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Ow so he's been consistent since singing that contract? Hasn't been a problem at all? Lol


DId I say that? But you guys never watch the Blues play and talk like experts when you really have no idea.

And FYI Binnington has had one terrible performance season, and that was 21-22... and even then, he ended it hot and was the best goalie going in the playoffs when he got run over by Kadri.
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 45
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You would be delusional to think otherwise Hahha parayko contract is horrendous give ur head a shake


Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.
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15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 45
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Bedard easily holds more value than matthews Hahha matthews is gonna be massively overpaid next year.

hawks get a guaranteed 7 more years of Bedard and will probably get him at better cap hit then 13 million


One is one of the best in the league
The other hasn’t even played 25 games yet
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 47
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Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.


bro this oiler dude took this acgm hella serious lol
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15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 48
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Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.

Numbers don’t lie Hahha and I know he’s a shutdown defensemen with a little bit of offensive game I know exactly what I’m talking about he’s gonna be getting 6.5M at 38 and that’s absolutely horrendous which makes his contract terrible because of the term
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 49
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One is one of the best in the league
The other hasn’t even played 25 games yet


Do you know who Conor Bedard is ?
15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 49
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bro this oiler dude took this acgm hella serious lol


Little bit to serious haha
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15 nov. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Little bit to serious haha


always entertaining watching mokumboi defend his land
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15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 3
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Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao


You’re comparing franchise centers on one side. Bedard possibly does due to his years of team control. Not because he’s 18. Years of team control bring AAVs down due to arb seasons.

Parayko and Bouchard are not apples to apples. One is a shutdown d man who has average offensive skills. One is a high end offensive d man who has size but virtually no defensive skills.

Age isn’t a value. It’s relative to a teams window and it’s mainly about what player x provides at cap hit x.
15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 6
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Do you know who Conor Bedard is ?


Yes but lets be serious here, Whiles hes an Amazing prospect and will have more value than matthews very quickly
He still has less than 25 games.
Thats like saying after 2 games in 2015 that Mcdavid had more value than crosby
15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 15
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You’re comparing franchise centers on one side. Bedard possibly does due to his years of team control. Not because he’s 18. Years of team control bring AAVs down due to arb seasons.

Parayko and Bouchard are not apples to apples. One is a shutdown d man who has average offensive skills. One is a high end offensive d man who has size but virtually no defensive skills.

Age isn’t a value. It’s relative to a teams window and it’s mainly about what player x provides at cap hit x.


Who’s better crosby or Stuzle I would say crosby but Stuzle holds more value cause he’s significantly younger so yes age does matter when it comes to value
15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 17
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Yes but lets be serious here, Whiles hes an Amazing prospect and will have more value than matthews very quickly
He still has less than 25 games.
Thats like saying after 2 games in 2015 that Mcdavid had more value than crosby


Bedard has so far lived up to the hype he easily holds more value then matthews in fact he would probably put up more points than matthews if he played on the leafs with players like nylander and marner who compliment matthews game
15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 20
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Numbers don’t lie Hahha and I know he’s a shutdown defensemen with a little bit of offensive game I know exactly what I’m talking about he’s gonna be getting 6.5M at 38 and that’s absolutely horrendous which makes his contract terrible because of the term


Oh, you're a fortune teller? Is that you Ms. Cleo? tears of joy

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