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Créé par: hudsonsux
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2023
Publié: 15 nov. 2023
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I don’t want Kane
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15 nov. 2023 à 1 h 28
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Sharks don’t want Klingberg without a good sweetener.
15 nov. 2023 à 1 h 42
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Sharks don’t want Klingberg without a good sweetener.


That’s the price it’d cost to get rid of him. If sharks don’t want it another team will take it
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15 nov. 2023 à 1 h 46
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I don't think getting Kane would be bad, but it's likely not happening. They could just play him in the top 6 with Tavares and Nylander, which might alleviate the pressure to perform off Bertuzzi resulting in stable secondary scoring from the third line. In terms of the long-term outlook, if the Leafs do end up losing Nylander, retaining Kane should soften that blow.
15 nov. 2023 à 2 h 6
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I don't think getting Kane would be bad, but it's likely not happening. They could just play him in the top 6 with Tavares and Nylander, which might alleviate the pressure to perform off Bertuzzi resulting in stable secondary scoring from the third line. In terms of the long-term outlook, if the Leafs do end up losing Nylander, retaining Kane should soften that blow.


Hes not what they need though

He plays 0 defense and whats been the teams problem defense

We got Bertuzzi and Domi already for that

Our top 9 finally looks good and we finally got a working 4th line. Him coming could destabilize everything

Willy is having a performance for the ages and the top line looks good. Third line finally got going with Domi and Robertson showing chemistry and our 4th line is useable now with McMann looking good.

Lets not ruin it
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15 nov. 2023 à 2 h 27
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Hes not what they need though

He plays 0 defense and whats been the teams problem defense

We got Bertuzzi and Domi already for that

Our top 9 finally looks good and we finally got a working 4th line. Him coming could destabilize everything

Willy is having a performance for the ages and the top line looks good. Third line finally got going with Domi and Robertson showing chemistry and our 4th line is useable now with McMann looking good.

Lets not ruin it


He's not what they need but adding him at 950K for example isn't going to prevent them from adding what they need. Currently, Bertuzzi is in a top 6 role and he does have 3 points in his last 5 games, but if he doesn't build off of that then replacing him should be something that is explored (even if internally by moving Robertson up).

They probably shouldn't be messing with the 3rd line, but it's quite possible that they do end up needing to trade Robertson to make those additions that they need on the blue line. I know everyone wants to just dump Klingberg to make room for defensive additions, but moving Bertuzzi might be easier/provide more flexibility.

So, for a Kane addition to be bad, it really depends on how much it would cost to bring him in, how the top 9 players are doing at the time, and whether or not the defense is in shambles still. Right now, they need to figure out their dcore first, then they could look to see how effective the team defense is and if they could afford to bring in a pure offense winger.

I think the first step is to see if Timmins could provide the offense that Klingberg was meant to while playing 18+ minutes (preferably 20), and if he can, then adding Zadorov while removing Klingberg should suffice. If Timmins doesn't play as he was in the off-season, then the Leafs might need to bring in someone like Hanifin along with Zadorov.
15 nov. 2023 à 2 h 53
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Shiny toy syndrome strikes again. Improve your defense. Yes. But why add Kane?
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15 nov. 2023 à 7 h 37
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Kane is not going to Canada.
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15 nov. 2023 à 8 h 21
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That’s the price it’d cost to get rid of him. If sharks don’t want it another team will take it


Getting rid of a $4M 7th D is probably gonna take more than that, especially when the saga has been very public and Keefe has literally said "we need to shelter him more" when he already was playing the most sheltered minutes in all of hockey.

Also, Kane was already bad before hip surgery so can't imagine that would work out well, and he's going to want multiple years at a higher salary.
15 nov. 2023 à 8 h 41
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That’s the price it’d cost to get rid of him. If sharks don’t want it another team will take it


You are wildly underestimating how much teams charge for cap space, you're looking at something closer to a 2nd
15 nov. 2023 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: MelfortSask
Adding Kane would be a big mistake.


Quoting: SharkTank
Shiny toy syndrome strikes again. Improve your defense. Yes. But why add Kane?


I don’t want them to get him but they might. I said in description I don’t want him
15 nov. 2023 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Getting rid of a $4M 7th D is probably gonna take more than that, especially when the saga has been very public and Keefe has literally said "we need to shelter him more" when he already was playing the most sheltered minutes in all of hockey.

Also, Kane was already bad before hip surgery so can't imagine that would work out well, and he's going to want multiple years at a higher salary.


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You are wildly underestimating how much teams charge for cap space, you're looking at something closer to a 2nd


It’s a 1 year deal and can be bought out for 2mil 🤯🤯 a 2nd is crazy they’re not using the cap and honestly he’s be one of their best
15 nov. 2023 à 23 h 57
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That’s the price it’d cost to get rid of him. If sharks don’t want it another team will take it


If that was the price he's be gone already. 4.15M for a guy who is cooked
 
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