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Good comparables for Zadorov

Créé par: Byrr
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 10 nov. 2023
Publié: 10 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Who are the good comparable trades for Zadorov? Here's a shrot list of recently moved, non-1st pair defensemen and their returns. I avoided RFAs like Sandin and Durzi because they all would still be at an age where they are expected to get better and have a lot of team control remaining. They'd make for lousy comparables.
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1.
ANA
    2025 4th round pick
    2.
    CGY
    1. Petry, Jeff
    Détails additionnels:
    50% retained
    DET
      2025 4th round pick
      Gustav Lindström
      3.
      NJD
        5th Round Pick
        4.
        CGY
        1. Edmundson, Joel
        Détails additionnels:
        50% retained
        WSH
          2024 3rd round pick
          2025 7th round pick
          5.
          CBJ
            2023 3rd round pick
            6.
            DET
              2026 3rd round pick
              7.
              CGY
              1. Hronek, Filip
              Détails additionnels:
              2023 4th round pick
              2 seasons of term
              VAN
                2023 1st round pick
                2023 2nd round pick
                8.
                NSH
                  2023 3rd round pick
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                  2025
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                  2026
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                  2583 500 000 $83 832 916 $0 $227 500 $-332 916 $
                  Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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                  10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
                  AG, AD
                  NMC
                  UFA - 8
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                  7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
                  C
                  NMC
                  UFA - 6
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                  5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
                  AD, AG
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 2
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                  3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
                  C, AG, AD
                  UFA - 2
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                  5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
                  C
                  NMC
                  UFA - 1
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                  4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
                  AD, AG
                  NTC
                  UFA - 4
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  AG, C
                  UFA - 1
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                  4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
                  C, AD
                  UFA - 1
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                  825 000 $825 000 $
                  AD
                  UFA - 2
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                  2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
                  AG, AD, C
                  RFA - 1
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                  775 000 $775 000 $
                  AD
                  RFA - 1
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                  863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                  AG, C
                  RFA - 2
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  AD, AG
                  UFA - 1
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                  Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
                  687 500 $687 500 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 1
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                  3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
                  G
                  NMC
                  UFA - 3
                  Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
                  2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
                  DD
                  M-NTC, NMC
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
                  G
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo de Capitals de Washington
                  875 000 $875 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 1
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                  813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
                  G
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo de Devils du New Jersey
                  1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
                  6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
                  DD
                  NTC
                  UFA - 8
                  Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
                  4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
                  4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
                  DD
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo de Predators de Nashville
                  2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 3
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                  4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 3
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                  1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
                  DG
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  DG
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
                  DD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  NTC
                  UFA - 8
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo de Flames de Calgary
                  1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
                  C
                  UFA - 1

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                  11 nov. 2023 à 8 h 19
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                  Quoting: bhavikp27
                  I don't know for the others, people often overestimate their players but I think Chiarot is the exact comparable. The type of players GMs love to overrate, both big players, both really physical and lots of teams will be interested. Zadorov is younger and doesn't have a M-NTC like Chiarot. Playoffs' experience and time on ice are different but I'm confident the asking price will be a 1st and they will get it (unless Conroy is really dumb).


                  Well again, half a dozen teams have said that same thing. Habs fans said it for Edmundson, Vancouver fans for Schenn, etc. People seem to miss that Chiarot was considered by GMs as a minute eating guy. He was playing 24 minutes a night in Montreal, their top penalty killer, facing the tough competition, etc, and had gone to the cup final doing so. Guys like Edmundson, Schenn and Zadorov aren't that. These 3rd pairing 'big, physical' guys haven't been getting that kind of return.
                  11 nov. 2023 à 8 h 19
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                  Quoting: bhavikp27
                  I don't know for the others, people often overestimate their players but I think Chiarot is the exact comparable. The type of players GMs love to overrate, both big players, both really physical and lots of teams will be interested. Zadorov is younger and doesn't have a M-NTC like Chiarot. Playoffs' experience and time on ice are different but I'm confident the asking price will be a 1st and they will get it (unless Conroy is really dumb).


                  Well again, half a dozen teams have said that same thing. Habs fans said it for Edmundson, Vancouver fans for Schenn, etc. People seem to miss that Chiarot was considered by GMs as a minute eating guy. He was playing 24 minutes a night in Montreal, their top penalty killer, facing the tough competition, etc, and had gone to the cup final doing so. Guys like Edmundson, Schenn and Zadorov aren't that. These 3rd pairing 'big, physical' guys haven't been getting that kind of return, they haven't been worth more just because Chiarot was.
                  11 nov. 2023 à 18 h 35
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                  The only real good Comparable Players are:

                  Ben Chiarot when he was Traded to FLA
                  David Savard when he was Traded to TBL
                  And maybe, Scott Mayfield who has never been Traded

                  Zadorov is Younger, Bigger and Better than all of those guys were when they were Traded, so he’s worth even more than they were

                  Zadorov is asking for a Trade in order to get more minutes and a contract extension, so he’ll be wanting a Top-4 spot and contract extension, which can likely be done all at the same time if/when he’s Traded, so with term, he’s again worth even more
                  30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 6
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                  Quoting: Byrr
                  Well again, half a dozen teams have said that same thing. Habs fans said it for Edmundson, Vancouver fans for Schenn, etc. People seem to miss that Chiarot was considered by GMs as a minute eating guy. He was playing 24 minutes a night in Montreal, their top penalty killer, facing the tough competition, etc, and had gone to the cup final doing so. Guys like Edmundson, Schenn and Zadorov aren't that. These 3rd pairing 'big, physical' guys haven't been getting that kind of return, they haven't been worth more just because Chiarot was.


                  Well, you were right. Glad to be wrong and hopefully it means other big defensemen won't bring back ridiculous returns.
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                  30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 34
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                  Quoting: bhavikp27
                  Well, you were right. Glad to be wrong and hopefully it means other big defensemen won't bring back ridiculous returns.


                  The list of 'this guy is going to get the Chiarot return' but doesn't gets longer yet every teams fans will keep saying their 3rd pairing physical defenseman is going to get a 1st.
                   
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