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Créé par: datmonkey91

Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 8 nov. 2023

Publié: 8 nov. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Give Brown some time in the minors to find his game and if he does, the team can bring him back for the playoffs but if not, he can stay in the minors due to his performance bonus

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EDM

Future Considerations

MTL

Ceci, Cody

Détails additionnels:

Ceci hasn't been horrible this year but the oilers need to clear his cap to upgrade his spot. Habs seem to like veteran dmen and can easily move him retained at the deadline this year or next year for some value back

EDM

Timmins, Conor

TOR

Desharnais, Vincent

Détails additionnels:

Leafs have interest in Desharnais and are not playing Timmins at all. Seems like a likley deal both sides would make

EDM

Pesce, Brett (2 012 500 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Canes side: Quite a big trade but I could see the canes doing it. They have loads of quality dmen to take over Pesce's spot and since he only has one year left, the likelihood of him re-signing isn't high. Cashing in on his value for assets will help the canes to either buy at the deadline or keep to add to their already strong prospect pool. Since there's a big question mark in goal for the canes, giving a chance to Campbell who can very well pick up his game in front of a strong canes team isn't a big risk as his salary becomes 2.5 mil for them, a contract easy to bury, buy-out, or trade.

Oilers side: Campbell has not worked out with the team and sadly didn't fit in for them. Trading him at half retained saves the oilers from buying him out or burying him in the minors. Even though they have to move some valuable trade pieces, a quality dman that can play with Nurse will do wonders for the team, and just as importantly, cap space is freed up to create flexibility.

CAR

Broberg, Philip
Campbell, Jack (2 500 000 $ retained)
Grubbe, Jayden
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

2027 4th round pick

note: 2024 1st round pick is top 10 protected

EDM

Wolf, Dustin

CGY

Fanti, Ryan
Savoie, Carter
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

I'm not sure the value of goaltenders on the market as many people perceive it differently so I made a package that might interest the Flames. Firstly, Wolf is NHL ready and is probably better than both Flame goalies right now, but the organization for some reason doesn't want to play him. If the Oilers target him to split time this year with Skinner, this could be a huge move that benefits them in the long run. Calgary gets a very nice package of assets while giving up a goalie who they deem is the third best in the organization right now, and the Oilers get what is hopefully a goalie that can provide stability

EDM

Duclair, Anthony (1 000 000 $ retained)

SJS

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Not a necessary trade but acquiring a guy that can be a solid complementary top 6 winger can be huge help in supporting the depth scoring

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jack Campbell: 2 500 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	83 500 000 $	81 541 625 $	850 000 $	665 000 $	1 958 375 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Holloway, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (650 000 $$650K) AG, C RFA - 1	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Duclair, Anthony 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Kane, Evander 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Lavoie, Raphael 874 125 $874 125 $ AD, C RFA - 1
Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 6	Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
Gagner, Sam 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ C RFA - 2	Ryan, Derek 900 000 $900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Pesce, Brett 2 012 500 $2 012 500 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin 813 333 $813 333 $ (15 000 $$15K) G RFA - 1
Ekholm, Mattias 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Bouchard, Evan 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Skinner, Stuart 2 600 000 $2 600 000 $ G UFA - 3
Kulak, Brett 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Gleason, Benjamin 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 2

8 nov. 2023 à 2 h 38

evelutions2

Lets Get Kraken

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This is truly Montreal and Toronto levels of delusions. I have to say, thanks for the laugh.

Now, the Canes aren’t moving Pesce. That was made clear when camp started. They also certainly don’t want the anchor that is Campbell. So just ignoring the fact that you are barely even paying enough (if that is even enough, which is probably unlikely) to dump Campbell, you have nothing of value going the Canes way for Pesce.

Rodger11 et Fran615 a aimé ceci.

8 nov. 2023 à 3 h 28

Rodger11

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Timmins is hurt if not he would be playing

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8 nov. 2023 à 7 h 29

Kinger25

Banni

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Leafs decline timmins would be playing if he wasn’t hurt

datmonkey91 a aimé ceci.

8 nov. 2023 à 9 h 9

PeterStone

habs1986

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this quote is easily the funniest part "Habs seem to like veteran dmen"
Habs D this season
Harris , 2nd season
Guhle, 2nd season
Xhekaj , 2nd season
Barron, 2nd season
Kovacevik , yea, 2nd season

Xavier02 et Fran615 a aimé ceci.

8 nov. 2023 à 9 h 16

Gmonwy

GO FLAMES GO

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Wolf doesn't have to go on waivers, and RN it's a good thing he is in the AHL. His confidence would get destroyed, and playing behind this team would be horrible for him

8 nov. 2023 à 10 h 2

Fran615

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You admit that you're dumping Ceci for cap issues to a team that gets NOTHING back and doesn't need that player... who is signed for another year?????????
Delusional.

8 nov. 2023 à 10 h 19

Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln

On the Rod Meal Plan

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There isn't a question mark in goal for the Canes, they have Kochetkov and Raanta both of whom are good tenders, if a little inconsistent in Pyotr's case. Even if the oilers retain on Campbell (which is ridiculous, they wouldn't retain 2.5x4), trading your a very good RHD for a goalie who just got sent to the AHL is nonsensical. A first and Broberg could help the Canes buy at the deadline, but with the retention on Pesce they no longer accrue enough cap space to make a big move.

8 nov. 2023 à 10 h 30

SMH

Mr.

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montreal like physical d-man who can skate too, cece isnt a fit

9 nov. 2023 à 2 h 17

datmonkey91

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: PeterStone

this quote is easily the funniest part "Habs seem to like veteran dmen"
Habs D this season
Harris , 2nd season
Guhle, 2nd season
Xhekaj , 2nd season
Barron, 2nd season
Kovacevik , yea, 2nd season

Quoting: Fran615

You admit that you're dumping Ceci for cap issues to a team that gets NOTHING back and doesn't need that player... who is signed for another year?????????
Delusional.

Quoting: SMH

montreal like physical d-man who can skate too, cece isnt a fit

Savard, a veteran dman was signed by the habs, Matheson is also a vet, while majority of the habs d corps after are grown through their system. For some reason, NHL teams like having veteran presences to play with their young talent so why not take a free Ceci who is a serviceable dman and will almost guarantee value back at the deadline if you trade him with retention this year or next. The trade is built similarly to the Kulikov trade (from MIN to ANA), however, Ceci makes a bit more money but at the same time plays a more prominent role on his team. If not the habs, I'm sure a team will take him for free as there was interest in him this summer.

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9 nov. 2023 à 8 h 15

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SMH

Mr.

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Quoting: datmonkey91

There's a difference between veteran presences and veterans taking minutes in a game or spots in the lineup away from the prospects, cece isn't the type of D teams go for at the deadline either and his contract has one more year, so no montreal won't be interested for all the reasons above

9 nov. 2023 à 10 h 25

#11

Fran615

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Quoting: datmonkey91

Actually, I agree 100% on your last sentence. The Habs are not the best trade partner for Ceci, but yes, a team will probably find use in him for sure

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