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f it we ball

Créé par: nic_par
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 29 oct. 2023
Publié: 29 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I don't trust management to properly rebuild anymore, and we'll play ourselves out of a top-3 pick. F it, we ball.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 400 000 $
811 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
810 250 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Hutson, Lane
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. O'Connor, Drew
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
PIT
    Sean Monahan. TDL 2024.
    2.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
    Détails additionnels:
    Could be to any team that needs a goaltender.
    LAK
      Samuel Montembeault. TDL 2024.
      3.
      MTL
      1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (DAL)
      4.
      MTL
        I do not care. Someone take him please.
        SJS
        1. Savard, David
        2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
        5.
        MTL
          I do not care. Someone take him please.
          SJS
          1. Dvorak, Christian
          2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (DAL)
          6.
          MTL
          1. Pettersson, Elias [Droits de RFA]
          VAN
          1. Barron, Justin [Droits de RFA]
          2. Suzuki, Nick
          3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
          Détails additionnels:
          pick is 8ov.
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          2387 500 000 $70 757 083 $1 022 500 $5 000 000 $16 742 917 $

          Formation

          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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          835 000 $835 000 $
          AG, AD
          RFA - 2
          11 500 000 $11 500 000 $
          C, AG
          UFA - 8
          10 250 000 $10 250 000 $
          AD
          UFA - 8
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          7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 7
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          3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
          C, AD
          RFA - 2
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          950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
          AD, AG
          RFA - 1
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          2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
          C, AG
          RFA - 3
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          853 333 $853 333 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
          C
          RFA - 3
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          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
          AD, AG
          M-NTC
          UFA - 3
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          1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
          AG, AD
          RFA - 1
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
          C
          UFA - 1
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          897 500 $897 500 $
          AG, AD
          RFA - 1
          Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
          925 000 $925 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          812 500 $812 500 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
          DG/DD
          RFA - 1
          4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
          DD
          UFA
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
          G
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
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          4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
          DG
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
          DD
          RFA - 3
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          890 000 $890 000 $
          G
          RFA - 1
          Hutson, Lane
          950 000 $950 000 $
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          766 667 $766 667 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
          1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
          DG/DD
          RFA
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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          10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
          G
          NMC
          UFA - 2
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          6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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          M-NTC, NMC
          UFA - 3

          Unités spéciales

          Avantage numérique 1
          Hutson, L.
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          29 oct. 2023 à 19 h 11
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          AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
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          Not enough for Pettersson, but I would take Dvorak for Beauvillier. I might even retain a little.
          29 oct. 2023 à 19 h 23
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          Canucks pass
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          29 oct. 2023 à 19 h 23
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          Quoting: kingkanuck
          Not enough for Pettersson, but I would take Dvorak for Beauvillier. I might even retain a little.


          Canucks shouldn’t take Dvorak. He’s overpaid and not any better than Suter/Lafferty
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          29 oct. 2023 à 19 h 49
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          PDG over PDO
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          Lol not even close
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          29 oct. 2023 à 20 h 33
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          Quoting: kingkanuck
          Not enough for Pettersson, but I would take Dvorak for Beauvillier. I might even retain a little.


          Quoting: theleano1
          Lol not even close


          Which team would give more than a top 6 C on a decent long term contract, a top 4 RHD prospect and a top 10 pick for Pettersson? And what would that offer look like?

          I mean, MTL could add another pick, but i think it's as close as any team would offer.
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          29 oct. 2023 à 20 h 49
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          PDG over PDO
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          Quoting: LIRIK
          Which team would give more than a top 6 C on a decent long term contract, a top 4 RHD prospect and a top 10 pick for Pettersson? And what would that offer look like?

          I mean, MTL could add another pick, but i think it's as close as any team would offer.


          Vancouver isn't trading Pettersson so to start its going to be an over pay, you need atleast one bluechip piece, the price would like revolve around Dach, Reinbacher and 1st atleast, it's expensive to aquire a young top 10 C in the leauge especially when Vancouver is competing we have no reason to trade him. Any offer Is going to have to be a no brainer yes or else we aren't interested, honestly if Pettersson was available many teams could make a more attractive offer than this I.e Columbus. There is just no value here for us to downgrade pettersson into suzki
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          29 oct. 2023 à 22 h 22
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          Quoting: LIRIK
          Which team would give more than a top 6 C on a decent long term contract, a top 4 RHD prospect and a top 10 pick for Pettersson? And what would that offer look like?

          I mean, MTL could add another pick, but i think it's as close as any team would offer.


          U do realize that VAN is under no obligation whatsoever to trade him…. RIGHT ?!

          Wow
          30 oct. 2023 à 2 h 4
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          Quoting: theleano1
          Vancouver isn't trading Pettersson so to start its going to be an over pay, you need atleast one bluechip piece, the price would like revolve around Dach, Reinbacher and 1st atleast, it's expensive to aquire a young top 10 C in the leauge especially when Vancouver is competing we have no reason to trade him. Any offer Is going to have to be a no brainer yes or else we aren't interested, honestly if Pettersson was available many teams could make a more attractive offer than this I.e Columbus. There is just no value here for us to downgrade pettersson into suzki


          To me, Suzuki and Barron have a higher value than Dach and Reinbacher, you can have them instead if you prefer.

          In both case, MTL is offering 3 top 6 / top 4 pieces for 1 player.
          30 oct. 2023 à 2 h 5
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          Quoting: AntiAnalytics
          U do realize that VAN is under no obligation whatsoever to trade him…. RIGHT ?!

          Wow


          For now they don't. If he says he won't extend this summer, they might have to.

          You seem angry, but it's not like i offered Anderson and a 2nd... That offer is decent IMO.
          30 oct. 2023 à 15 h 8
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          Quoting: LIRIK
          For now they don't. If he says he won't extend this summer, they might have to.

          You seem angry, but it's not like i offered Anderson and a 2nd... That offer is decent IMO.


          Yeah, we get that it’s your opinion
          No one agrees with you though

          I’m a Sabres fan, so i have no dog in this fight
          But teams will LINE UP to make offers to VAN if- and it’s a big IF- they actually decide to trade Pettersson
          You’re gonna have to outbid about 20 other teams who will be interested- & there’s zero chance your offer get him- IMO 🤣
          30 oct. 2023 à 16 h 4
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          Quoting: AntiAnalytics
          Yeah, we get that it’s your opinion
          No one agrees with you though

          I’m a Sabres fan, so i have no dog in this fight
          But teams will LINE UP to make offers to VAN if- and it’s a big IF- they actually decide to trade Pettersson
          You’re gonna have to outbid about 20 other teams who will be interested- & there’s zero chance your offer get him- IMO 🤣


          So, what would those offers look like?
          30 oct. 2023 à 16 h 30
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          Quoting: LIRIK
          So, what would those offers look like?


          Better than yours imo, but I’m not gonna delve too deeply into hypotheticals
          Point is, your offer absolutely won’t get it done, IMO
          30 oct. 2023 à 18 h 42
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          Quoting: AntiAnalytics
          Better than yours imo, but I’m not gonna delve too deeply into hypotheticals
          Point is, your offer absolutely won’t get it done, IMO


          I didn't make this ACGM, but this is a better offer than what FLA paid for Tkachuk.
          30 oct. 2023 à 19 h 58
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          Quoting: LIRIK
          I didn't make this ACGM, but this is a better offer than what FLA paid for Tkachuk.


          1- no it’s not, Huberdeau was a HUGE piece at the time & no “huge” piece is being offered in these hypotheticals

          2- comparing trades like that is foolish, since the circumstances of said trade will be different than the hypothetical one- and the circumstances will affect the return value
           
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