The late 1st is a start but Calgary doesn't want Klingberg. Replace him with Liljegren make it 50% retention on Tanev and you probably have a deal.

Tanev has no where near the value to get lily no sorry this is an overpayment this will do

Leafs fans 0.o

You can't count either, several is more than a few which is more than the 2 likes your comment got. That's not even taking into account how many Toronto fans there are. There are probably more Leafs "fans" who couldn't name more than a few of their own players far less name anyone on another team than most teams have in total number of fans.

Liljegren for Tanev 50% retained is probably enough (maybe add Former Coronato Harvard Teammate Abruzzese), but a Late TOR 1st alone isn’t and I don’t think we want anything to do with Klingberg, including taking on the additional task of moving him for another asset

Are we very high on Topi Niemela @MoxNix!? Or what other Player/Prospect in addition to the 1st might work!?

I don’t mind Jarnkrok as a Bottom-6 Player. He’d be almost 1/2 the cost as Dube come next year and he’s just as good. I see us moving on from Dube to make space for Pelletier, Zary and/or Honzek next season anyways

Man lily for tanev boat never set sail never was booked to set sail because it would never happen it makes zero sense for the leafs when lily is probably better next year

I know your feelings on the matter, but how soon Liljegren eclipses Tanev is arguable & debatable. Like I’ve always said do you want/need the better player now or some day in the future…

A late (likely very late) 1st definitely isn't enough for Tanev especially not at 50% retained. Lilly probably isn't enough by himself either though Lillly and a 2nd might be close. Before Toronto fans suggest it no Brodie and/or Robertson + a late first doesn't cut it either. Timmins + a late 1st might be close too.

No interest in Niemela. None whatsoever.

Jarnkrok isn't bad but he's not what the Flames need. He's on the wrong side of 30 with 3 years on his contract (counting this year) and had no chemistry with anyone in Calgary when he was here. Besides I'm starting to wonder if part of the problem could be too many Swedes. Swedes in general are skilled players with decent size but the vast majority of them aren't exactly the grittiest or most competitive players around. I doubt Dube gets much more than about 3 mil per on his next contract. I'd rather keep Dube than trade him for Jarnkrok. But yeah we should be moving on from Dube with all the young left shot forwards coming up. Dube could use a change of scenery too.

As Don used to put it "Chicken Swedes"... Always followed by profuse apologies to Ulf Samuelsson.

On the other hand Jarnkrok for Kadri anyone? :P

No, we would Trade Dube elsewhere, Jarnkrok would just be a cheap replacement. He’s a Right Shot and Better both at Playing Centre and Defensively, but nowhere near the Hustle, Energy or Tenacity Dube brings. He’d be a fine 3LW/4C. Anything that happened while Sutter was there doesn’t mean too much to me, meaning I’m sure Jarnkrok would be better in CGY this time around

Is Timmins any good though!? He’s injury prone too, no!?

Jarnkrok would be better without Sutter... Sure just like Huberdeau and Kadri. They've been so much better now that Sutter is gone right? For at least 10 years now the team has been like this through multiple coaches. The problem isn't coaching it's the culture where mediocrity not only acceptable it's worthy of a long extension with a nice raise as long as a player is "a nice guy". Making Backlund captain pretty much assures they'll continue having the same old problems. Who will they blame next the coach again, or the goalies? I'm guessing they'll blame the coach 2 years in a row for a change since Markstrom's wild inconsistency and propensity for letting in terrible goals at the worst times actually is a huge problem.

Timmons I'm not sure about. That's why I said it *might be close. The Leafs never have enough money left over for a good D corps and expect too much from 3rd pairing players. They did it with Justin Holl for years now it's Timmons turn to be the whipping boy on defense.

Janrkrok was contributing 0.50PPG+ pre and post CGY/Sutter, so it’s not a stretch to believe he could do the same in Calgary a 2nd time around

$2.1mil isn’t terrible for what he can do, I was just thinking it would help keep Lindholm and the other Swede’s happy, but your point in general about them not wanting to get involved with the Dirty and Physical parts of the game isn’t wrong

Huberdeau & Kadri are having their own issues and clearly Sutter wasn’t/isn’t the reason. That said, they weren’t the only guys that wanted Sutter gone obviously, so it’s just a different time and opportunity is more of what I was saying

Dube will probably get more like $3.5-4mil+. He’s doing better than Sharangovich is so far