Edmonton does that all day long

I dont think the rangers do this, even though its fair value.
From what Im seeing the whole in the lineup is at 3rd RW, where wheeler is. I dont think duclair fits that spot at all.

Duclair can play off wing! But I get it, just send a lot of Duclair to NYR so I sent him there

I only do it because we can have him back up this season and next then buy out the last 2 years and it’s not horrid especially with the cap space sharks have in 24/25 & 25/26

Well said sir

Rangers aren’t interested in depleting their draft pool any further. Likely route is they waive/trade Wheeler and call up Othmann to fill their W issue.

Probably smarter but I’ve seen a lot of Duclair to NYR is all. Could honestly be to anyone.

Sharks need more from Edmonton. The other trades are fair.

I think it's a little early into Eller's tenure as a Penguin to give up on him, but I think the Pens would accept closer to the trade deadline if he doesn't get better.

If you look at Campbells buyout it’s very reasonable after this year or next! This is probably the max they even consider and it gives the sharks a bunch more pieces to rebuild their arsenal

I honestly don't feel like Sturm is an upgrade over Eller.

In looking it seems that are somewhat same kind of level of production around 30ish points at their peak. Yes Sturm maybe a couple years younger, but in looking at how Eller is currently playing as 3C for the Pens I am not sure that I would want to break up that chemistry because at times the 3rd line has seemed like the best line and can be thrown out into an situation.

Benning would definitely be an upgrade to Ruh..... but would it really be worth a 2nd that Im not sure of especially when there could possibly be better options available for that package .

Based off that I would say Pens decline mainly due to Eller, and could possibly revisit and rework a Benning for Ruh deal with maybe a 3rd or 4th instead of a 2nd.

I mean when you're looking at a 3rd/4th line role, Sturm fits that mold MUCH better. Sturm is a high energy player, great on the forecheck, ELITE penalty killer. He doesn't have that offensive upside that Eller does but I don't think Pitt is really looking for that right now. Also slightly better cap hit and the age is more of a factor for next year. You can reliably count on Sturm being the same player next year, whereas at 34 Eller could really drop off next year

Sturm is better, better PK and in a deeper stronger team will have more offensive opportunity. I just heard Dorian is trying to fix the bottom 6 and bottom pair D

I would argue he already has.

I'll keep it real I really haven't watched Sturm enough to know what his fit would look like, however what I have watched of Eller on the 3rd line for the Pens would not be easily replaceable in terms of chemistry. The way him, Big Z, and O'Connor work together has made them into a line that can be trusted in all situations defensively and offensively. My fear would be you lose the offensive side when you add in Sturm. Additionally, you would lose Ellers presence in the locker room which he appears to be in a leadership role (in terms of pecking order probably 5th behind Sid, Geno, Tanger, and Karlsson).

As far as next year I even stated in my original Sturm is a few years younger, but isn't really a prospect level talent isn't really developing anymore, so what you have to look at is what is the likelihood someone like Eller falls off tremendously. Which given Eller's style of play (which isn't really physical and has never been the best skater on any team) I wouldn't expect him to fall off as rapidly as someone who posses that physical or speed game.

The slightly better cap hit you're looking at 450K difference which isn't even league minimum.

All of this I still feel like no need to make the move for Sturm at least with Eller as the piece returning to the Sharks.

The only possible move I see that would vastly improve Penguins situation is finding a way to not dress 77 night in and night out and addressing the 3rd pair defense.

I don’t agree with your assessment.
1st. While Sturm is what he is (9-13G 20-35P) he is also fast hood skater well above average face off guy and one of the best PK guys in the league, to me he is clearly better than Ellers and will be even more so next year. (Sharks suck so you gotta use the eye test not the numbers!)
And Benning is a big upgrade. But if you guy pass that’s not an issue as another team would jump on this! RD and depth C who are both good on PK are always people of interest to clubs.

You may not agree with my assessment and that's perfectly fine, however as I mentioned I haven't watched any Sharks games and probably will only watch 2 of their games all year. That being said I still see Sturm and Eller as similar in production levels throughout their careers and think that moving Eller would end up hurting more than helping unless he is moved for a more scoring option that still brings a defensive side to their game. I do not see Sturm being an option for that.

I wouldn't mind acquiring Benning and would be open to doing a swap of Ruhwedel for him and say add a 3rd/4th round pick to the deal.

I do not think it is necessary for the Pens to give up their only really depth scoring option and get back a player who does not shoot the puck (which would only add to Pens depth problems of not having any scoring). Especially when I have seen Calgary posts sending Dube to the Pens which imo is more upside than trading for a guy like Sturm