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Wishful Thinking 2425

Créé par: JMS14
Équipe: 2024-25 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 26 oct. 2023
Publié: 26 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Keep in mind the title here.
Making that big trade to solidify the Centre position for the next near decade. I'd be comfortable letting those players go in this instance, but I am thinking another part has to be added yet to get Van to accept.
I wondered if Ras or JB would take a cheaper 7 year deal, similar to Engvall/Wood/Tanev. I know they are all older then Ras or JB, but one can dream. If not the term goes down a few years and they are still on the team.
If more cap is needed then Maata could likely be traded to relieve $3M
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 530 000 $
21 250 000 $
24 500 000 $
73 500 000 $
31 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Petterson, Elias
811 000 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. Pettersson, Elias [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Signs an 8x11 Extension. I doubt $11 is enough, but as the title says...
VAN
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Kasper, Marco
  3. Wallinder, William
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Fabbri added for cap, unless he is on LTIR at that time. Kasper won't be needed if you are running EP, Larkin and Nate as your 3 Centres for the next 7 years. Not sure if Wallinder would move the needle or if ASP would need to be included. Also contingent if Vancouver can't get EP to sign with them. If he wants out there will still be enough suitors though.
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2187 500 000 $86 390 973 $0 $850 000 $1 109 027 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Petterson, Elias
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 7
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
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878 333 $878 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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905 833 $905 833 $
AG
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
RFA
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 530 000 $8 530 000 $
DD
RFA
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 31
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You're about an Edvinsson and a Berggren short of EP, assuming EP keeps his pace from last year.

Unless we get a bargain, I don't think it'll be worth it.
26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 47
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Definitely not close. It's probably a little more than the Tkachuk trade as your comparable for value. The reason I say more is the contract situation and player quality is probably pretty comparable, but Petty plays a more valuable position and doesn't have the public deceleration of not signing handcuffing the team.
26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: SGB88
Definitely not close. It's probably a little more than the Tkachuk trade as your comparable for value. The reason I say more is the contract situation and player quality is probably pretty comparable, but Petty plays a more valuable position and doesn't have the public deceleration of not signing handcuffing the team.


Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
You're about an Edvinsson and a Berggren short of EP, assuming EP keeps his pace from last year.

Unless we get a bargain, I don't think it'll be worth it.



I agree with both. Figured I was a bit light, but this is also why I put in the last line in the trade. "If Van feels they can't resign him" (because EP Wants to leave) then there will be some discount to it. If that is the case there will be a lineup of teams offering packages, but also only so many that can make the Cap work as well. Wishful thinking for sure though.
26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 19
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Unfortunately this isn't enough. Kasper, Wallinder and the 1st is a good start but they'd prob ask for Ed over Wallinder and Danielson over Kasper. Then it quickly becomes not worth it.

Yzerman is hopefully all in on Nylander this summer.
aedoran a aimé ceci.
26 oct. 2023 à 14 h 23
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If it were possible which it isn't its probably Larkin, Edvinsson + 1st
26 oct. 2023 à 15 h 25
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I agree with both. Figured I was a bit light, but this is also why I put in the last line in the trade. "If Van feels they can't resign him" (because EP Wants to leave) then there will be some discount to it. If that is the case there will be a lineup of teams offering packages, but also only so many that can make the Cap work as well. Wishful thinking for sure though.


The thing is, it won't be public that he won't sign there. It changes the dynamic vs hasn't got signed yet.
26 oct. 2023 à 15 h 46
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Unfortunately this isn't enough. Kasper, Wallinder and the 1st is a good start but they'd prob ask for Ed over Wallinder and Danielson over Kasper. Then it quickly becomes not worth it.

Yzerman is hopefully all in on Nylander this summer.


If Nylander will sign for about $8M a season Yzerman will be all in. Before the season started DeBrincat had more goals in fewer games ad the same ppg as Nylander and signed for$ 7.875M. So why give Nylander the $9M to $10M and after the holdout in 2017. Let him go elsewhere.
26 oct. 2023 à 17 h 5
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PDG over PDO
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Atleast the tittle is correct
26 oct. 2023 à 18 h 52
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If Nylander will sign for about $8M a season Yzerman will be all in. Before the season started DeBrincat had more goals in fewer games ad the same ppg as Nylander and signed for$ 7.875M. So why give Nylander the $9M to $10M and after the holdout in 2017. Let him go elsewhere.


Nylander is a much better player than Cat is, IMO. He's an elite, elite forward, Cat is a really good -player and great goal scorer. Nylander takes a team to a new level.

Anything over $10M I probably balk at, but anything under 10 for 6-7 years I am all in. The cap is going up there's plenty of space.
 
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