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Créé par: PenguinMullet68
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 3 oct. 2023
Publié: 3 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Canucks resign Hronek to a 5 year $6,500,000 and Pesce gets 5 year $6,500,000
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Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $83 156 667 $850 000 $0 $343 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance475 000 $$475K)
AD, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
870 000 $870 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
870 000 $870 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
DG
RFA - 3

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5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 18
#26
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Quoting: PenguinMullet68
I said framework, so knowing first if they even want to resign with the team acquiring them and then how many years and cap hit so they fit them in their cap structure before pulling off the trade otherwise the acquiring team is going in blind to find out the player has now plan of staying there and will test the UFA market for certain teams
Guaranteed both players did this in the Tkachuk and Hubredeau trade


Nope, Huberdeau wasn't notificated of the trade. He was "blindsided" by the trade and i imagine Weager was too. Imagine how much better off the Flames would have been if they traded one year of Tkachuk, for one year of Huberdeau, Weager, traded those two players for futures, hand the first and had 17.5m this summer
You're just trying to make argument that doesn't exist. Teams trades, and the players aren't in on the deals.
Certainly the Flames would have known the approximate going rate for Huberdeau and his new contract. Trevling made a big mistake in overpaying Huberdeau so he could justify the trade of Tkachuk.
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5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: palhal
Nope, Huberdeau wasn't notificated of the trade. He was "blindsided" by the trade and i imagine Weager was too. Imagine how much better off the Flames would have been if they traded one year of Tkachuk, for one year of Huberdeau, Weager, traded those two players for futures, hand the first and had 17.5m this summer
You're just trying to make argument that doesn't exist. Teams trades, and the players aren't in on the deals.
Certainly the Flames would have known the approximate going rate for Huberdeau and his new contract. Trevling made a big mistake in overpaying Huberdeau so he could justify the trade of Tkachuk.
I completely agree that often it is best to jump start a retool.
Huberdeau and Weegar would have returned a boat load having just completed a career years.
Jonathan with 30 goals, 115 pts and MacKenzie with 8 goals, 44 pts each on one year contracts of only $5,900,000 and $3,250,000 respectively.
Each could have returned as much as a first, good prospect and a young roster player.
With the extra cap space they may have been able to land several UFA's and still had the picks and prospects.

The Flames had a very unlucky last year losing 12 OT and 5 SO games, the most in the NHL.
In contrast the Jets only lost 3 such games.
Still performing a proper rebuild would have put them in a stronger position for many years.
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5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 38
#28
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I completely agree that often it is best to jump start a retool.
Huberdeau and Weegar would have returned a boat load having just completed a career years.
Jonathan with 30 goals, 115 pts and MacKenzie with 8 goals, 44 pts each on one year contracts of only $5,900,000 and $3,250,000 respectively.
Each could have returned as much as a first, good prospect and a young roster player.
With the extra cap space they may have been able to land several UFA's and still had the picks and prospects.

The Flames had a very unlucky last year losing 12 OT and 5 SO games, the most in the NHL.
In contrast the Jets only lost 3 such games.
Still performing a proper rebuild would have put them in a stronger position for many years.


I think GMs make the same mistake over and over again. In order to justify a trade (in this case trading Tkachuk) they feel obligated to sign the player(s) obtained to show their fans they got fair value.
Now, I never liked the resigning of Huberdeau...second highest paid LWer and whose contract starts at the age of 30.
I don't wish the Flames or Huberdeau any misfortune, but IMO that is going to one horrendous anchor of a contract. Same with the aging Kadri for six more years at 7m.
By not resigning those Huberdeau and Weager it wouldn't even by a retool. For 16.5m imagine the UFAs that could have been signed this summer and been just as good this season, and had those futures in the TDL trades
5 oct. 2023 à 16 h 41
#29
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Quoting: PenguinMullet68
Dude you think the Penguins can wait a year lol
The Penguins are at end of days here with Malkin saying he is done in 2 or 3 and Sid’s is up in 2 years so if Dubas “ wait until next year “ and he will be like Hextall and Burke looking for a new job


Dubas hasn't waited a year....... Like if you look at what he did he made the team vastly better than what they were even last year at this time which is impressive in that he only really had to give a 1st and a 2nd to do so......... The Penguins do not need a reunion with Ian Cole who is an aging defenseman who will only log jam LHD especially at his 3+ mil youre basically trading Carter for Carter but on defense
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