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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 21 sept. 2023
Publié: 21 sept. 2023
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  1. Zegras, Trevor [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Quinn, Jack
  2. Savoie, Matthew
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21 sept. 2023 à 8 h 43
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Overpayment for sure
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21 sept. 2023 à 8 h 44
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Overpayment for sure


Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.

Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.

Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows to come my way.

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Ennis, Weber and a 2nd? Maybe throw in Funk as a sweetner?

Zegras ain't gonna come cheap.
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Ennis, Weber and a 2nd? Maybe throw in Funk as a sweetner?

Zegras ain't gonna come cheap.


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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 0
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Might change Quinn in that package, but you probably aren't far off.
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Might change Quinn in that package, but you probably aren't far off.


Krebs?
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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: Boos
Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.

Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.

Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows to come my way.

smile


the other site used rosen instead of quinn

don't think the value is there. think quinn-savoie-1st gives the org way more long term value
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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 4
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Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.

Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.

Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows to come my way.

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He might be a solid player but he's a lot of flash and not a lot of anything else. At this point he isn't worth half of that package, especially if Anaheim is losing bargaining power. One injury to young players isn't even close to a concern for being injury prone.
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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 7
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Krebs?


Verbeek seems to like some size, maybe Wahlberg.
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He might be a solid player but he's a lot of flash and not a lot of anything else. At this point he isn't worth half of that package, especially if Anaheim is losing bargaining power. One injury to young players isn't even close to a concern for being injury prone.


Savoie has had two shoulder injuries. Quinn is out with an achilles problem and he also missed over four weeks with a lower-body injury in jan, 2022.

Concern? Maybe, maybe not. Should we take notice? Absolutely.
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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 12
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Quoting: Boos
Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.

Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.

Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows to come my way.

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What does zegras do besides michigans and putting puck the his legs to warrant being "that good" hes soo overrated
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Verbeek seems to like some size, maybe Wahlberg.


Yeah, they seem to like size down the middle.
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What does zegras do besides michigans and putting the his legs to warrant being "that good" hes soo overrated


Wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with some of the talent he would be playing with on the Sabres. Think he would do a bit more.
21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 17
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What does zegras do besides michigans and putting the his legs to warrant being "that good" hes soo overrated


*shrugs*

He's play driver who can play with pace, score and set up. He has some areas to work on, but he fits right in with the way the Sabres play.
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Ennis, Weber and a 2nd? Maybe throw in Funk as a sweetner?

Zegras ain't gonna come cheap.


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What does zegras do besides michigans and putting puck the his legs to warrant being "that good" hes soo overrated


Big suburban hockey dad energy
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21 sept. 2023 à 9 h 35
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I wouldn't make this trade. Savoie and a 1 is a great place to start but I wouldn't be using Quinn.
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I wouldn't make this trade. Savoie and a 1 is a great place to start but I wouldn't be using Quinn.


Yeah. He was a tough one to put in. I mentioned maybe substituting Krebs. Buff36 mentioned Wahlberg.

Suggestions?
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Overpayment for sure
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the other site used rosen instead of quinn
don't think the value is there. think quinn-savoie-1st gives the org way more long term value

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Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.
Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.
Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows (...of outrageous fortune Hamlet. In act 3, scene 1) to come my way.
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Zegras is not going to take Tage's or Dylan's spot in the line up.
Giving up a young NHL forward, a good prospect and a first for a third line center is not very good asset management.
Keep in mind, Trevor does not appear to add significant production over Casey:
2022-'23- gm--go--ast--pts---pim--+/-
Trevor-----81---23--42---65----88....-24
Casey------82---15--44---59----22......-8
and Casey filled in for Thompson very well at the end of the season, negating the need for an insurance policy if either Tage or Dylan are injured.
If one removes the PP points Casey outscored Trevor 52 to 48.
Finally, if one could erase three March games (Boston and Dallas (24-5 cumulative), Casey had a respectable +2 rating, significantly better than Trevor's -28.

Additionally, Trevor's primary line mates were Henrique, Terry, Vatrano and Strome; 22, 24, 22 and 15 goals respectively with 17:54 min/gm and 0:01 SH TOI.
Casey's primary line mates were Jost, Asplund, Hinnostroza, Krebs (this quartet accounted for a total of 20 goals) and Olofsson. The final 18 games of the season he was paired with Skinner and Tuch with 16:07 min/gm and 0:32 SH TOI.

I cannot see any reason to make this trade after watching Rosen, Kulich, Benson and Savoie perform during the prospect challenge.
Buffalo should keep their assets and promote Casey to the top six if either of Tage or Dylan are injured.
BTW, I will suspect Casey will sign for significantly less than Trevor.

Well that is my penny and half tome of the week.
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21 sept. 2023 à 10 h 14
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Zegras is not going to take Tage's or Dylan's spot in the line up.
Giving up a young NHL forward, a good prospect and a first for a third line center is not very good asset management.
Keep in mind, Trevor does not appear to add significant production over Casey:
2022-'23- gm--go--ast--pts---pim--+/-
Trevor-----81---23--42---65----88....-24
Casey------82---15--44---59----22......-8
and Casey filled in for Thompson very well at the end of the season, negating the need for an insurance policy if either Tage or Dylan are injured.
If one removes the PP points Casey outscored Trevor 52 to 48.
Finally, if one could erase three March games (Boston and Dallas (24-5 cumulative), Casey had a respectable +2 rating, significantly better than Trevor's -28.

Additionally, Trevor's primary line mates were Henrique, Terry, Vatrano and Strome; 22, 24, 22 and 15 goals respectively with 17:54 min/gm and 0:01 SH TOI.
Casey's primary line mates were Jost, Asplund, Hinnostroza, Krebs (this quartet accounted for a total of 20 goals) and Olofsson. The final 18 games of the season he was paired with Skinner and Tuch with 16:07 min/gm and 0:32 SH TOI.

I cannot see any reason to make this trade after watching Rosen, Kulich, Benson and Savoie perform during the prospect challenge.
Buffalo should keep their assets and promote Casey to the top six if either of Tage or Dylan are injured.
BTW, I will suspect Casey will sign for significantly less than Trevor.

Well that is my penny and half tome of the week.


Tage
Zegras
Cozens

That's a helluva top-3 down the middle. They're all young and would cost under $22M.

Casey can play wing or center and can play up and down the lineup, but he isn't as dynamic as Zegras.

That said, point taken. And I'm not really married to that package as it is on the high side.

Just throwing it out there to see what comes back.
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Zegras is not going to take Tage's or Dylan's spot in the line up.
Giving up a young NHL forward, a good prospect and a first for a third line center is not very good asset management.
Keep in mind, Trevor does not appear to add significant production over Casey:
2022-'23- gm--go--ast--pts---pim--+/-
Trevor-----81---23--42---65----88....-24
Casey------82---15--44---59----22......-8
and Casey filled in for Thompson very well at the end of the season, negating the need for an insurance policy if either Tage or Dylan are injured.
If one removes the PP points Casey outscored Trevor 52 to 48.
Finally, if one could erase three March games (Boston and Dallas (24-5 cumulative), Casey had a respectable +2 rating, significantly better than Trevor's -28.

Additionally, Trevor's primary line mates were Henrique, Terry, Vatrano and Strome; 22, 24, 22 and 15 goals respectively with 17:54 min/gm and 0:01 SH TOI.
Casey's primary line mates were Jost, Asplund, Hinnostroza, Krebs (this quartet accounted for a total of 20 goals) and Olofsson. The final 18 games of the season he was paired with Skinner and Tuch with 16:07 min/gm and 0:32 SH TOI.

I cannot see any reason to make this trade after watching Rosen, Kulich, Benson and Savoie perform during the prospect challenge.
Buffalo should keep their assets and promote Casey to the top six if either of Tage or Dylan are injured.
BTW, I will suspect Casey will sign for significantly less than Trevor.

Well that is my penny and half tome of the week.


Nice, some good info. Good Post
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21 sept. 2023 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: Boos
Yeah. He was a tough one to put in. I mentioned maybe substituting Krebs. Buff36 mentioned Wahlberg.

Suggestions?


Both good options for sure. I would even consider Savoie, Ostlund and a 2 rather than a 1.
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