Petterson and Hughes should be 5th and 4th respectively

If Petey can replicate another 100 point year, yeah. He's not top 5 yet. Neither is hughes

One of them could easily replace matthews

I would take Petterson over matthews but either than that this list looks good

Draisaitl away from McDavid isn't a 100 point player, what Hughes and Petterson do on their own is much better. Crosby is here due to nostalgia

The Draisaitl argument I can understand, I just still don't think him being a really good PP player makes him any worse. If anything, I think he HELPS MAKE McDavid the player he is. (not taking anything away from McDavid, he's the best player in the world)

Crosby just scored 98 points at the age of 36, and has STILL yet to produce one UNDER ppg season in his entire career.
If you're trying to win a cup tomorrow, and your three options are Petey, Hughes, and Crosby.. you're not picking Hughes or Petey.

Crosby hasn't been able to will his team out of the first round in a while.

That guy is hopeless to talk to. There is no logic or reason

I'm not going to fault Crosby because his supporting cast doesn't show up.

If I were to use a similar argument, I'd knock Matthews out of the top 5 because he's known to dissappear during important playoff games.
But I won't, because it'd be dumb.

Matthews is still only 25

Your point?

This guys only argument is that Draisaitls numbers are inflated because of McDavid it’s like ok why aren’t Matthews numbers inflated with Tavares Nylander Marner and Morgan Reilly all playing on his team why is matthews a completely different player when playoff time comes around how is matthews so inconsistent with his numbers and still be considered top 5 in the league cause in my opinion Mackinnon Makar Draisaitl are all far consistent with there numbers compared to matthews

Rantanen should be on the RW list. I’d put him there over Stone. I’d also put Hamilton over Theodore. Overall pretty good list though

Theo is better both ends of the ice, and was a key piece in a cup win.

I have Stone there because he's one of the best two way forwards in the league.

Is Hedman still the top 2 LD in the league?

He may not even be the best defenseman on Tampa Bay.. Hedman has played a lot of hockey, father time will eventually show up.

Until that happens I believe he's still top 5

Actually, this guy's point is that Draisaitl doesn't produce away from McDavid and doesn't play defence whereas Matthews shows up at 5v5 and on the PP... Matthews is the best goal scorer in the league, no debate, and he plays an entirely other 100 foot game that Draisaitl's awful at... Matthews GPG has been growing steadily by 5 Gs per season and roughly 0.15 PPG per season until he played on 1 wrist...

In conclusion, Draisaitl isn't as good as Matthews

Matthews doesn’t produce away from marner and draisaitl is debatable a better goal scorer 100% better passer and playmaker and just a more complete player overall and 100x more consistent and better in the playoffs matthews is maybe 5th best C in the league at best but he isn’t in the same category as Tkachuk draisaitl McDavid Mackinnon Makar and if u say otherwise ur absolutely delusional and jealous

Yes, Matthews does... He doesn't typically play with Marner until recently... And Draisaitl's nothing compared to Matthews in terms of goal scoring, 5v5 chances/60 in 2022-23 leader: Matthews, https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/15d1inv/jfresh_who_got_the_best_scoring_opportunities_in/?rdt=49465 Draisaitl isn't in the top 40... It proves he's coasts off the PP

Also, in terms of playoffs, Matthews led the league in chances and shots in RD2 this past year... He's also has a better PPG and GPG than Tkachuk so it proves how delusional you are... Also, Matthews, again, is a way better defender than all the guys you just named... So stay mad, delusional and jealous that the Leafs have a better chance to win it all over the Oilers

And 90% of people would disagree with you very unpopular opinion u have

What kind of a response is that? I've got no stats to back up what I saying and he's throwing out stats that makes sense to his claim so I'm going to say it's unpopular and frankly makes Matthews underrated but yet I don't want him to be considered underrated so I will put the most overrated Leafs there instead

I have given you multiple facts and stats to back up everything I say u just don’t listen

Where? Please name me one thing that Draisaitl does better than Matthews besides passing...

107 goals last 2 seasons on 525 shots matthews had 100 goals on 675 shots

Matthews also played 18 less games and through injury... Meaning on average... Matthew was creating and scoring more goals per game making Matthews better just like Matthews having the most goals since entering the league in total, at 5v5 and at 5v5/60