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Trade Hellebuyck and Connor Extend Scheifele

Créé par: Grapevine
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 15 août 2023
Publié: 15 août 2023
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Offer Scheif 8x8.5 with the cap going up who cares? Also, I’d make this Kyle Connor Trade to get back players that may actually want to be here and not run to free agency.
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I have no idea if he would waive or if they’d do it but it’s worth a shot to get a guy who would likely want to be in Winnipeg.
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15 août 2023 à 15 h 44
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Add Seider while you're at it.
15 août 2023 à 15 h 46
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Idk about the value

But very unlikely they trade him inter division
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15 août 2023 à 15 h 51
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Quoting: xercuses
Idk about the value

But very unlikely they trade him inter division


Understandable but I’m just trying to look for guys who I think would be fine playing in Winnipeg and Schenn sounds like one.
15 août 2023 à 15 h 59
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Wings in no position to give all that upto a pending Ufa and a good winger
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15 août 2023 à 16 h 1
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Wings in no position to give all that upto a pending Ufa and a good winger


They apparently are ok adding Jeff Petry though. Maybe that Yzerplan is an Yzerproblem?
15 août 2023 à 16 h 4
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Is there anything indicating that Kyle Connor doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, if so I've missed it?
Think that's a really hefty price for the Red Wings to pay, even though KC is one of the best goal scorers out there.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 5
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Yikes
15 août 2023 à 16 h 15
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15 août 2023 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: Grapevine
They apparently are ok adding Jeff Petry though. Maybe that Yzerplan is an Yzerproblem?


You must be kidding? You asked four essentially 4 1st round picks and for what a 30 year old goalie whonis a pending UFA and Connor, who is a very good player, and all for one proven player whonis what 20 or 21 a top 10 ten pick this year and two future 1st round picks. There is nothing Helly would sign here as the Wings are not a true cup contender and he could walk after this year.

Also for your dmart remark, Yzerman got Petry on the cheap and for virtually nothing. I am not overall happy, but Steve is slowly trying to shape this team for a long run in the playoffs and possible cups runs. Guys like you see the fast track and wonder why your team sucks for 3 to 5 years and then is good for two.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 20
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Peter Chiarelli isn't Red Wings GM.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: Grapevine
They apparently are ok adding Jeff Petry though. Maybe that Yzerplan is an Yzerproblem?


Wouldn't it be easier to just say you don't like Steve Yzerman?
15 août 2023 à 16 h 28
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Wouldn't it be easier to just say you don't like Steve Yzerman?


I don’t like when people value nothing over something. Kyle Connor scored 47 goals in this league. Hellebuyck is one of the only elite goalies. This trade would put Detroit back into the playoffs but since they are the fan base that never seems to want to stop rebuilding they seem to hate a trade that is a win for them.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 28
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Quoting: mikearky
You must be kidding? You asked four essentially 4 1st round picks and for what a 30 year old goalie whonis a pending UFA and Connor, who is a very good player, and all for one proven player whonis what 20 or 21 a top 10 ten pick this year and two future 1st round picks. There is nothing Helly would sign here as the Wings are not a true cup contender and he could walk after this year.

Also for your dmart remark, Yzerman got Petry on the cheap and for virtually nothing. I am not overall happy, but Steve is slowly trying to shape this team for a long run in the playoffs and possible cups runs. Guys like you see the fast track and wonder why your team sucks for 3 to 5 years and then is good for two.


A great goalie and a guy who’s scored 47 goals for a bunch of maybes, an average goalie and a bad defenceman is me doing you a favour.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 29
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I like Schenn but even if he'd waive gawd no to that trade.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 29
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I like Schenn but even if he'd waive gawd no to that trade.


You like Nino that much?
15 août 2023 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Add Seider while you're at it.


Well yes, obviously... 😁
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15 août 2023 à 16 h 32
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Quoting: Grapevine
You like Nino that much?


Yes, I also like Lucius' potential, have you looked at Schenn's contract and age?
15 août 2023 à 16 h 33
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Yes, I also like Lucius' potential, have you looked at Schenn's contract and age?


His contract is fine and his age isn’t a problem if you want to win now.
15 août 2023 à 16 h 54
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Preposterous trade for detroit to make
15 août 2023 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Preposterous trade for detroit to make


Draft picks mean more than established top players, got it.
15 août 2023 à 18 h 2
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That one trade looks awful for Detroit, while the other looks awful for Winnipeg
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15 août 2023 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: HockeyManiac95
That one trade looks awful for Detroit, while the other looks awful for Winnipeg


Prospects are nice when you are starting a rebuild. We aren’t rebuilding and Detroit has been rebuilding for 7 years! At some point you’d think they’d want to contend but I guess picks and prospects matter more in year 7 of a rebuild than a top winger who’s scored 47 goals and a Vezina trophy winner.
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15 août 2023 à 23 h 16
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Connor is the one guy this team should avoid trading at all costs
15 août 2023 à 23 h 16
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Prospects are nice when you are starting a rebuild. We aren’t rebuilding and Detroit has been rebuilding for 7 years! At some point you’d think they’d want to contend but I guess picks and prospects matter more in year 7 of a rebuild than a top winger who’s scored 47 goals and a Vezina trophy winner.


Or when the window opens up they would prefer to be in the hunt longer, with a real chance of winning. As a fan base there was the "Dead Wings" era, followed by greatness. What is another down time if the payoff is similar to, or even a fraction of last time? You're so eager to talk up Helle and KFC (rightfully so) when completely ignoring the ramifications for the Wings.
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16 août 2023 à 10 h 49
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Or when the window opens up they would prefer to be in the hunt longer, with a real chance of winning. As a fan base there was the "Dead Wings" era, followed by greatness. What is another down time if the payoff is similar to, or even a fraction of last time? You're so eager to talk up Helle and KFC (rightfully so) when completely ignoring the ramifications for the Wings.


I’m an old guy who remembers that Dead Wings era and it sure looks like you’re in another one.
 
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