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Créé par: V1nny83at5_F1am35_GM

Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 13 août 2023

Publié: 13 août 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Trading Noah Hanifin and Mikael Backlund to Detroit for Robby Fabbri, Joe Veleno (RFA), William Wallinder, conditional 2nd round pick 2024, conditional 2nd round pick 2025
Conditions for both picks
->If Detroit misses 2024 NHL playoffs, they can choose which draft pick to keep:
-->if Detroit keeps 2024 2nt round pick, they lose 2025 2nd round pick
-->if Detroit keeps 2025 2nd round pick, they lose 2024 2nt round pick
->If Detroit makes the 2024 NHL playoffs, they lose both the 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick.

We are willing to retain up to 50% of Backlund's salary if this trade can happen.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Sergeev, Arsenii		3	800 000 $

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph		4	2 500 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Fabbri, Robby
Veleno, Joseph [Droits de RFA]
Wallinder, William
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)

Détails additionnels:

Conditions for both picks
->If Detroit misses 2024 NHL playoffs, they can choose which draft pick to keep:
-->if Detroit keeps 2024 2nt round pick, they lose 2025 2nd round pick
-->if Detroit keeps 2025 2nd round pick, they lose 2024 2nt round pick
->If Detroit makes the 2024 NHL playoffs, they lose both the 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick.

DET

Enfoui

Kevin Rooney: 150 000 $ (1 300 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	80 726 666 $	0 $	865 000 $	2 773 334 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Huberdeau, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 8	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C UFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2
Pelletier, Jakob 863 333 $863 333 $ AG RFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C NMC UFA - 6	Mangiapane, Andrew 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
Fabbri, Robby 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Dubé, Dillon 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 1	Coronato, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 2
Coleman, Blake 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 4	Veleno, Joseph 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C RFA - 1	Duehr, Walker 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam 762 500 $762 500 $ AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Weegar, MacKenzie 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vladar, Daniel 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Oesterle, Jordan 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin 813 333 $813 333 $ (15 000 $$15K) G RFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Huberdeau, J.		Lindholm, E.		Sharangovich, Y.
	Pelletier, J.		Andersson, R.

Avantage numérique 2
Mangiapane, A.		Kadri, N.		Coronato, M.
	Kylington, O.		Fabbri, R.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Coleman, B.	Lindholm, E.
	Oesterle, J.	Tanev, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Veleno, J.	Dubé, D.
	Zadorov, N.	Weegar, M.

13 août à 18 h 53

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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Interesting but Detroit still probably declines.
Not to critique the value, but as of right now both of these players would be rentals. This is a lot for a team that's a playoff hopeful to give for two rentals that would still not guarantee playoffs.

MoSeider53, aedoran et Billy12Bob a aimé ceci.

13 août à 19 h 2

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Rejoint: août 2022

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Detroit passes, Backlund is 34 and way past his prime. He holds no value for us. There has been rumblings of Detroit possibly having interest in Noah Hanifin. But i like our future D core a lot. Plus with J T Compher and Andrew Copp as our 2C and 3C respectively. We really don't need Backlund.

DeadWingsv2, aedoran, Rattlehead and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

13 août à 19 h 14

Rattlehead

Rejoint: mai 2016

Messages: 91

Mentions "j'aime": 41

Decline. Backlund doesn't fit at all. If we need another center, we call up Kasper.

And we are loaded on the left side.

DeadWingsv2, MoSeider53, aedoran and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

13 août à 20 h 5

Erbas1915

Rejoint: juin 2023

Messages: 580

Mentions "j'aime": 169

Quoting: MoSeider53

I agree that Backlund is not a good fit for Detroit’s timeline because they’re still at least a few years away from competing, but saying he’s far past his prime is completely wrong. He just had a career year points wise and was arguably the Flames best forward, at worst second best.

Hanifin makes sense because he’d instantly become Detroit’s second best d-man and would be an ideal partner for Seider. And he’s still only 26. But it would take a first and two seconds to acquire him, or equivalent pieces

Ledge_And_Dairy a aimé ceci.

14 août à 4 h 4

Billy12Bob

Rejoint: sept. 2020

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Quoting: Erbas1915

Detroit already have the best prospect pipeline in the entire league on LD. and we have five waiver eligible LD on the roster. Our weak spot is RD not LD.

Trading for Hanifin makes zero sense for Detroit. Why would we spend assets on the position that already is our strongest and deepest when we have big holes elsewhere? If Hanifin had been a right shooter and cost controlled it would make sense but he's neither.

aedoran a aimé ceci.

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