NHL Tiers for Next Year

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Créé par: pensfan21

Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée

Date de création initiale: 11 août 2023

Publié: 11 août 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Cup favorites: Teams that I think for sure make playoffs and are top contenders to win the cup.

Cup contenders: Likely make playoffs. Could win the cup if they get hot at the right time but not favorites. Includes teams I think could have breakout seasons (similar to Kraken last year).

Wild cards: Don't mean literal wild cards, but teams that I am not sold on as contenders, but could be if a few things pan out. I would say majority of the teams here make playoffs but not 100%.

On the rise: Not necessarily good teams and probably not playoff teams, but teams that I think will be improved this season or exceed expectations.

Not sold: Wouldn't say these are going to be the worst teams, but teams that I think will fall short of expectations. Potentially could make playoffs but wouldn't say it's likely.

Rebuilding: Not much to say here, likely will be top lottery teams.

Threw some hot takes in here. If anyone has questions about a teams placement comment below and I can give an explanation.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
38	83 500 000 $	59 256 778 $	0 $	985 000 $	24 243 222 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Cup, Favorites 775 000 $775 000 $	Cup, Contenders 775 000 $775 000 $	Wild, Cards 775 000 $775 000 $
Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 1	Berglund, Carl 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Alscher, Marek 896 667 $896 667 $ (80 000 $$80K) DG RFA - 3
Ahac, Layton 897 500 $897 500 $ DG RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Bankier, Caedan 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 3
Bahl, Kevin 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Benson, Zach 950 000 $950 000 $ (650 000 $$650K) AG RFA - 3	Batherson, Drake 4 975 000 $4 975 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Arcuri, Francesco 825 000 $825 000 $ C RFA - 3	Abruzzese, Nick 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, C RFA - 2	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1
	Anderson, Michael 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Archibald, Josh 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
	Aamodt, Wyatt 775 000 $775 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Belzile, Alex 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
		Aho, Sebastian 825 000 $825 000 $ DG UFA - 1
		Alexeyev, Alexander 825 000 $825 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
On the, Rise 775 000 $775 000 $	Not, Sold 775 000 $775 000 $
Barron, Travis 775 000 $775 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Beecher, John 925 000 $925 000 $ C RFA - 2
Angle, Tyler 850 833 $850 833 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 1	Abramov, Mikhail 809 444 $809 444 $ C RFA - 1
	Åman, Nils 883 750 $883 750 $ C RFA - 1
	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 3
	Appleton, Mason 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ AD UFA - 2
	Berggren, Jonatan 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
	Afanasyev, Egor 789 167 $789 167 $ (57 500 $$58K) C, AG RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Rebuilding, Still 775 000 $775 000 $
Barabanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Allison, Wade 785 000 $785 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Agozzino, Andrew 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1
Allan, Nolan 825 000 $825 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 3
Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4

11 août 2023 à 14 h 43

Stadel

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The Sabres in that second column:

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11 août 2023 à 14 h 43

McSorley

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How is Buffalo a contender?

11 août 2023 à 14 h 43

Luguber

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Fun list and I like the placements of most of these!
Capitals though is the one team I'd definitely move down to "Not sold". Maybe Wild and aswell.
Maybe Sabres/Penguins are a stretch to have in the "Contenders" tier also.

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11 août 2023 à 14 h 45

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Nah this gotta be bait.
Detroit not on the rise, but Arizona is?

C'mon bro.

11 août 2023 à 14 h 46

pensfan21

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Quoting: Stadel

The Sabres in that second column:

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I think they are a playoff team after adding to their defense. Will be better than last year and they only missed by 1 pt. See them going on a similar run to the Kraken last year.

11 août 2023 à 14 h 47

pensfan21

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Nah this gotta be bait.
Detroit not on the rise, but Arizona is?

C'mon bro.

Detroit is obviously better than Arizona, but I'm basing this on expectations. I think many see Detroit as a playoff team or close, but I'm not sold based on their defense mostly. Think the forward core is solid but wouldn't say it's one of the best in the NHL.

11 août 2023 à 14 h 49

NHLfan10506

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Buffalo -1
Boston +1
Colorado +1
Detroit -1
St Louis -1
Tampa Bay +1
Washington -1

I think these are always tough to put into buckets because that wild card tier are both teams on the way in and on the way out. Typically franchises go through their lifecycle:

1. Contending
2. Aging
3. Shedding
4. Rebuilding
5. Competing
6. (repeat)

But there are certainly some teams unwilling to move to “shedding” that probably could.

11 août 2023 à 14 h 51

MoSeider53

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Buffalo a cup contender, Yeah perhaps if they add Hellebuyck to their Goaltending. Because Devon Levi isn't a cup winning Goalie just yet and neither is UPL.

11 août 2023 à 14 h 55

imawesome

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I don't hate the Buffalo shout but above Tampa is ridiculous. Tampa still have 5 top 30/40 players in the league

11 août 2023 à 14 h 56

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Im not sold on LA and Boston and im kinda not sold on the Aves either. Dont get me wrong i think they will make playoffs, but im not high on them.

11 août 2023 à 15 h 0

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Quoting: imawesome

I don't hate the Buffalo shout but above Tampa is ridiculous. Tampa still have 5 top 30/40 players in the league

I think Tampa will still be a very good team next year, just feel they need something to shake the team up a little during season or at TDL. Happened to the Penguins after the back to back cups, felt like they got stale and needed a major move for a while and finally they did it with Karlsson. I don't think you guys have gotten far past that point yet or at the point where you need a massive massive move like the Penguins did, but idk I feel like after winning a cup or two in our cases it's important to keep the team fresh. Feel Colorado is kind of in the same boat next season too where they'll be good, but just feels like they'll need something at TDL to push them to a cup favorite.

11 août 2023 à 15 h 2

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Quoting: TyeZerker

Im not sold on LA and Boston and im kinda not sold on the Aves either. Dont get me wrong i think they will make playoffs, but im not high on them.

Definitely I am not sold on Boston. I have some reservations about LA as well. I know the PLD trade helps for sure, but I just don't know if it was the right move for the team. Iafallo I get they wanted to use as trade bait but I still felt he was a really good playoff performer. Vilardi I think had tons of potential. So idk have some slight reservations there but still think they'll be good. Avs I agree as well. I think after teams win a cup they need to make a move that shakes up the team if they show signs of slipping. Happened after Pens won and I think Lightning and Avs are in that boat where they're still really really good teams but feel a little stale and like something is missing for them to truly be a cup team.

11 août 2023 à 15 h 11

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Quoting: pensfan21

I think they are a playoff team after adding to their defense. Will be better than last year and they only missed by 1 pt. See them going on a similar run to the Kraken last year.

the fact that they added two players doesnt mean they improved it. The problem last year was they didnt have a top 4 d-man and pretended Jokiharju was one. They got burned, and they still have that problem after adding two 3rd pair guys. Nothing has changed there.

Same with their goaltending. I know there's more than one way to build a contender, but Im 99% sure all successful GMs will tell you that pinning your playoff hopes on a 21 year old goalie with 7 games to his name is at minimum less than ideal.

Can't in good conscious call them a contender after a thoroughly unserious off season where they leave their top prospect in a vulnerable position to hinder his development.

11 août 2023 à 15 h 13

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Quoting: pensfan21

Ah, I think I just took these names at face value hence some confusion.

11 août 2023 à 15 h 22

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Ah, I think I just took these names at face value hence some confusion.

I could have been clearer on the names. I think Detroit will be really good once Kasper, Carlsson, ASP, or even 1-2/3 are ready. I think a lot of people are expecting them to be a playoff team next year but I think it'll just take some patience and they'll be a true contender in 2-3 years. On the rise teams I meant will exceed expectations while not sold will not meet them. Guess I caused some confusion with putting them below because most of those teams even though I think they'll disappoint will be better than Arizona and Columbus. I think Detroit improved in terms of free agent signings but I think them really taking the jump will come with their prospect pool developing to NHL talent. Detroit is still in better shape than most teams on the not sold tier though. I'm convinced many of them need a rebuild now while Detroit is exiting one soon.

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11 août 2023 à 15 h 26

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Cool tier list, maybe I should try this soon! I do think having Buffalo and Pittsburgh in the contenders list is bold though. I think Flordia would be a bit better than those teams this next year, mostly just because of the fact that they went to the cup finals this past year.

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11 août 2023 à 15 h 39

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Quoting: SadSensFan14

Thank you! Was trying to be bold with some of these. Feel like there's always tons of surprises and the best teams on paper don't always win. I agree Buffalo is bold and for Pens we have a lot to prove. Florida my concern is their D to start the season. I think if they make the playoffs they are for sure a cup threat, but I worry that they don't fall too far out of it before Ekblad and Montour are back.

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