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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2023
Publié: 8 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
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Pinto, Shane3 500 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024
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2283 500 000 $76 636 249 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $6 863 751 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
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RFA - 4
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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RFA - 1

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8 août 2023 à 10 h 36
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Source checks out.
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8 août 2023 à 10 h 53
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Jets decline lol
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8 août 2023 à 11 h 6
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Source checks out.


Interesting how this was arrived at... Moving onward to better things. Cheers.
8 août 2023 à 11 h 14
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Interesting how this was arrived at... Moving onward to better things. Cheers.


wISHING YOU WELL
8 août 2023 à 11 h 17
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wISHING YOU WELL


Thanks, likewise... all good stuff
8 août 2023 à 11 h 37
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Jets were very stupid to lose Kovacevic on waivers, seriously they valued Capobianco more ffs!.. lol 😆

But they aren't trading the Habs their 2nd to get him back, they already have a logjam on defense, can't see them adding to it.
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Jets were very stupid to lose Kovacevic on waivers, seriously they valued Capobianco more ffs!.. lol 😆

But they aren't trading the Habs their 2nd to get him back, they already have a logjam on defense, can't see them adding to it.


agreed. just going off what another jets fan suggested in a ridiculous take in the comments on another acgm I made.

2nd rounder for dach and kovacevic
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8 août 2023 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Jets were very stupid to lose Kovacevic on waivers, seriously they valued Capobianco more ffs!.. lol 😆

But they aren't trading the Habs their 2nd to get him back, they already have a logjam on defense, can't see them adding to it.


C'mon, my guess is we see Johnny Kovacevic on waivers this season. IMO this was not as massive a loss as the cap friendly narrative would have you believe.
IMO Capo is as good if not better than JK. #just sayin'
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C'mon, my guess is we see Johnny Kovacevic on waivers this season. IMO this was not as massive a loss as the cap friendly narrative would have you believe.
IMO Capo is as good if not better than JK. #just sayin'


I would be shocked to see him on waivers
8 août 2023 à 13 h 16
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C'mon, my guess is we see Johnny Kovacevic on waivers this season. IMO this was not as massive a loss as the cap friendly narrative would have you believe.
IMO Capo is as good if not better than JK. #just sayin'


Is Capobianco not likely hitting waivers sometime soon?.. lol

I agree it isn't some huge loss but it just seems sooo dumb to me that this team that constantly gets patted on the bum by the local media and many of its fans for its "drafting and developing" lost one of their few d&d successes in JonnyK for a journeyman LHD which is a position of surplus for the organization.

Also Capobianco's strength would seem to be on the offensive side of things so he's likely never breaking onto the Jets PP with JoMo and Pionk around whereas JonnyK has size and reach which would make him a useful 3rd pair RHD who can PK, since both Capo and JonnyK likely top out as 3rd pair guys it'd seem like JonnyK has more all round use.

Ultimately though yeah not a big loss but strange nonetheless, this org is quite terrible at clearing a path for prospects to make the jump.
8 août 2023 à 14 h 3
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Is Capobianco not likely hitting waivers sometime soon?.. lol

I agree it isn't some huge loss but it just seems sooo dumb to me that this team that constantly gets patted on the bum by the local media and many of its fans for its "drafting and developing" lost one of their few d&d successes in JonnyK for a journeyman LHD which is a position of surplus for the organization.

Also Capobianco's strength would seem to be on the offensive side of things so he's likely never breaking onto the Jets PP with JoMo and Pionk around whereas JonnyK has size and reach which would make him a useful 3rd pair RHD who can PK, since both Capo and JonnyK likely top out as 3rd pair guys it'd seem like JonnyK has more all round use.

Ultimately though yeah not a big loss but strange nonetheless, this org is quite terrible at clearing a path for prospects to make the jump.


You are right, it is a good possibility he hits waivers, I would not be surprised. This is the level of players we are comparing. Neither move the needle.
I'm not sure JK qualifies as a "success". He was a 6th dman on one of the 5 worst teams in hockey.
From my seat, I think the local media was all over the Jets for losing JK and they still talk about it as bad asset management. Hamilton, Billeck, Mcintyre, Rewicki etc... all still roast Chevy for this. Even the locked on Jets podcast guy. Media has been HARD on True North over the past few years.

JK and Capo are the same age, same point production. Johnny's a bit bigger and a right shot yes but this to me speaks more of the lack of confidence they have in Heinola, Stanley and Chisolm to be a player they can plug into the lineup on the left side if there is an injury. It is laughable how up in arms people get over this when the Jets have clearly in more cases than not evaluated players pretty accurately.

EDIT: no sense in clearing a path for a player you don't believe will make your team better. I think its on the player, make the decision difficult. None of these players have done that yet and are expected to be gifted a lineup spot?
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I would be shocked to see him on waivers


Then he will be a healthy scratch most nights. Barron will easily supplant him.
8 août 2023 à 16 h 8
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You are right, it is a good possibility he hits waivers, I would not be surprised. This is the level of players we are comparing. Neither move the needle.
I'm not sure JK qualifies as a "success". He was a 6th dman on one of the 5 worst teams in hockey.
From my seat, I think the local media was all over the Jets for losing JK and they still talk about it as bad asset management. Hamilton, Billeck, Mcintyre, Rewicki etc... all still roast Chevy for this. Even the locked on Jets podcast guy. Media has been HARD on True North over the past few years.

JK and Capo are the same age, same point production. Johnny's a bit bigger and a right shot yes but this to me speaks more of the lack of confidence they have in Heinola, Stanley and Chisolm to be a player they can plug into the lineup on the left side if there is an injury. It is laughable how up in arms people get over this when the Jets have clearly in more cases than not evaluated players pretty accurately.

EDIT: no sense in clearing a path for a player you don't believe will make your team better. I think its on the player, make the decision difficult. None of these players have done that yet and are expected to be gifted a lineup spot?


I don't tune into all Jets media stuff but the ones I hear are usually pretty pro Chevy and if there's even the slightest criticism they twist, turn and do gymnastics to say how said moves make sense.. lol..
Usually when I hear McIntyre and Billeck they're pretty positive about Chevy/TN but I don't hear or read all their stuff either, honestly don't hear much from Rewicki or Hamilton anymore.

This could turn into a much bigger convo.. lol.. But I would've kept Kovacevic over Capobianco and would clear a path for prospects, need to take a risk and let some of these guys sink or swim, why did we ever have to watch Bitetto or see Benn acquired.
I see the problem as a lot of these guys aren't given much if any NHL games to get their feet wet, its like they do their AHL time and little to no NHL games to get accustomed to the NHL game, that doesn't work imo.
Its almost impossible to force a difficult decision, the vets with NHL contracts are gonna get their spot no matter what. I'm not even a Ville fan but even if he has a monster camp/pre-season he's still likely headed to the Moose cause he's waiver exempt.

It also seems that the 1st round picks like Ville and Stanley are given endless opportunities while the later round picks like Chisholm only get a sniff if there's a mountain of injuries, that needs to change imo. A guy like Barron was gifted a spot in the lineup but all these dmen are left to rot and have their value diminish, just doesn't make sense to me.
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8 août 2023 à 19 h 1
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I don't tune into all Jets media stuff but the ones I hear are usually pretty pro Chevy and if there's even the slightest criticism they twist, turn and do gymnastics to say how said moves make sense.. lol..
Usually when I hear McIntyre and Billeck they're pretty positive about Chevy/TN but I don't hear or read all their stuff either, honestly don't hear much from Rewicki or Hamilton anymore.

This could turn into a much bigger convo.. lol.. But I would've kept Kovacevic over Capobianco and would clear a path for prospects, need to take a risk and let some of these guys sink or swim, why did we ever have to watch Bitetto or see Benn acquired.
I see the problem as a lot of these guys aren't given much if any NHL games to get their feet wet, its like they do their AHL time and little to no NHL games to get accustomed to the NHL game, that doesn't work imo.
Its almost impossible to force a difficult decision, the vets with NHL contracts are gonna get their spot no matter what. I'm not even a Ville fan but even if he has a monster camp/pre-season he's still likely headed to the Moose cause he's waiver exempt.

It also seems that the 1st round picks like Ville and Stanley are given endless opportunities while the later round picks like Chisholm only get a sniff if there's a mountain of injuries, that needs to change imo. A guy like Barron was gifted a spot in the lineup but all these dmen are left to rot and have their value diminish, just doesn't make sense to me.


I agree with all of this.
 
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