Petry is 100% sure gone by the first puck drop and it has been reported by Eric Engels, his family would've never agreed to lift their NTC to come back here. Montreal's the only team here that doesn't have a negative side in this trade.

There's two ways to look at the deal for San Jose;
1: You've traded a Norris finalist for three cap dumps at a staggering price of a single protected first rounder.
2: You've traded a 33 years old defender with an awful contract who, prior to this year, hasn't played a full 82 games schedule for six straight years and hasn't been a PPG player in those years either. Trading him gives you much better odds at finishing lower in the standings thus hitting a better prospect with your own future picks and the franchises has saved 17 millions dollars of real money by doing so. You don't care much about the return because you've cleared a problem for your rebuild.

Dubas' betting big time that he traded for last year's Karlsson and not the previous six years of him, if he comes out of the gate by playing 50 games and scoring 40 points it's a big fat L on the Penguins. And his contract is pretty much buyout proof with his 11M$ during his final two years.

Its not great for SJ now. Rutta can be moved. Hoffman can play on the PP and then get moved at the deadline. Granlund is a sunk cost. we will have 2 1st at least for a 2nd year in row and we only retained 1.5M on EK. the 10M in cleared cap space in 3 yrs is a win.

Terrible analysis of mtls part. Their blue line is pretty brutal, petry instantly becomes their best RD and is easily tradable at a retained hit for even more assets. Say they move petry for a 2nd and 4th, this means they have bought 2 seconds and a goalie for nothing but the retention on petry, how is that perplexing

Did they though?

Karlsson is owed $39M over the next 4 years. San Jose retained 13%, or $5M. They took back 3 players: Hoffman ($5M), Granlund ($11M) and Rutta ($5M). This trade is costing them $26M in cash over the next 4 years.

If they had simply retained 50% on Karlsson, that would have cost them $19.5M over the next 4 years. So this trade is NOT saving them money.

Here's the other thing: what would the return have been if they had offered to retain 50%? I would think it would be significantly higher in terms of picks & prospects.

Yes they do free up more cap space in year 3 and 4 doing it this way, but with the cap set to rise significantly and SJS not poised to come out of their rebuild any time soon, is this really any use to them?

I don't see any way to couch this as a successful manoeuvr by Grier.

Hoffman is off the books next year. Rutta gets traded either at the TDL or next offseason. That leaves them with only Granlund. They’re playing long ball. Our first in 2024 probably ends up around 18-22. They’ll probably get a useful player.

That first will take 2-3 years before the player is even ready to start making an impact. Big deal. Grasping at straws here. You gave up nothing

Who cares? SJ is a rebuilding team. They have 2-3 years. We have two prospects worth anything in our whole system. That pick would have been the 3rd.

That's the case for most contending teams with no prospects lmao, at least you have two. Who cares if you gave up a mid/late first in this weaker class lol. Still grasping at straws.

We aren’t a contending team though. That’s the entire point.

You are as long as Geno, Guentzel, Letang, and Sid are on the team.

That's accounted for. Irrespective of the length of the contract, it's money spent that didn't have to be.


Rutta has 2 more years left, he's unlikely to be traded at the deadline. GM's rarely want term attached, they're looking for rentals.

If they move him in the offseason they'll save $2.5M (unless they take another player back), that doesn't bridge the gap between $19.5M and $26M.


Eventually. But they could have got that AND MORE AND saved themselves millions of dollars if they had simply retained 50%.

Petry wanted to be closer to family due time the Canadian boarder restrictions during covid. So yes he requested a trade but not cause "he wanted out" but to be able to move freely between family members houses. He was tired of having to quarantine every time he went to or from the states.

Big W's for MTL & PIT, Huge L for SJS imo. I wouldn't even be trying to trade Petry personally, not this year anyway. One of the goalies should be on the way out though.