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Créé par: An80sPensfan
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 1 août 2023
Publié: 1 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
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PIT
  1. Karlsson, Erik (4 000 000 $ retained)
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PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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PIT
    Retains $2,000,000 on Petry
    Carter waives NTC as favour to Pens and retires pre-season
    ANA
    1. Carter, Jeff
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
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    UFA - 1
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    1 août 2023 à 22 h 20
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    Even if Carter retires, we still would have his cap hit on the books
    1 août 2023 à 22 h 22
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    Did you spend any time checking to see if teams can deal with the cap you are sending them??
    1 août 2023 à 22 h 37
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    I’m betting the package Dubas proposed for Karlsson isn’t even that robust. Minnesota has enough cap space to sign Addison and they’re finished. They are not taking Petry, ffs. Carter owes no one any favors except MoRon Hextall for singing him to that albatross of a deal. And he isn’t retiring. I doubt you could get more than a 7th for DeSmith. And Buffalo’s goaltending is set. Terrible. 🤣
    1 août 2023 à 22 h 44
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    Quoting: Pensfan303
    Even if Carter retires, we still would have his cap hit on the books


    Not if he’s traded to another team first…
    1 août 2023 à 22 h 51
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Did you spend any time checking to see if teams can deal with the cap you are sending them??


    If a third team (I proposed Anaheim in this post) retains on Petry, and if the Pens take on Fleury’s contract, the cap difference for the Wild is only -$750,000. Granted, the Wild may need to make another trade for a back-up goalie to be cap compliant. Anaheim, SJ, and Buffalo are comfortably under the cap.
    1 août 2023 à 23 h 4
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    Quoting: HulkVader
    I’m betting the package Dubas proposed for Karlsson isn’t even that robust. Minnesota has enough cap space to sign Addison and they’re finished. They are not taking Petry, ffs. Carter owes no one any favors except MoRon Hextall for singing him to that albatross of a deal. And he isn’t retiring. I doubt you could get more than a 7th for DeSmith. And Buffalo’s goaltending is set. Terrible. 🤣


    Pens should accept a 7th from any team for DeSmith.
    You’re right, Carter doesn’t owe the Penguins any favors…poor choice of words. But I do think he may retire and/or accept a trade if Dubas tells him he’ll otherwise be a healthy scratch all year.
    1 août 2023 à 23 h 8
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    Sabres definitely won’t have interest
    2 août 2023 à 0 h 3
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    Quoting: An80sPensfan
    Pens should accept a 7th from any team for DeSmith.
    You’re right, Carter doesn’t owe the Penguins any favors…poor choice of words. But I do think he may retire and/or accept a trade if Dubas tells him he’ll otherwise be a healthy scratch all year.


    If Dubas tells Carter he’ll be a healthy scratch for a year Carter files a grievance with the union. And the union will drag the Pens through the mud to the tune of you can forget any good free agents signing there and count on the Pens being on every player’s no-trade list because they now have a well-earned reputation for trying to black ball players.
    2 août 2023 à 0 h 12
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    Because he’s too old and slow to make the line-up?
    2 août 2023 à 0 h 24
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    Quoting: HulkVader
    If Dubas tells Carter he’ll be a healthy scratch for a year Carter files a grievance with the union. And the union will drag the Pens through the mud to the tune of you can forget any good free agents signing there and count on the Pens being on every player’s no-trade list because they now have a well-earned reputation for trying to black ball players.


    It would depend on how they tell him. If they say “waive your NTC or else we will just scratch you all season until you do” then yeah. But if they say “we feel 12 other forwards beat you out for a spot in the lineup and if you wanted a trade we would understand and will try our best to send you to a team you’d be willing to go to” then I don’t see that happening. I doubt any gm or coach would ever tell a player to waive or you get scratched until they do.
    2 août 2023 à 0 h 39
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    After watching 78/82 Penguins games last season, I legit don’t think he’s good enough to play in the league anymore…at least not on the Penguins. Not in the starting line-up, and when they have injuries, they should give the young guys in WB a chance. His NMC doesn’t even allow the Penguins to move him to the minors. And that’s how the conversation would start. I’m not suggesting they should threaten to bench him just to get him to waive his NMC. I’m saying he might agree to waive to get traded to a team willing to give him a chance to play if he doesn’t make the Penguins line-up…or if he decides to retire, he might waive first as a favor to the Penguins to allow them to dump his salary for picks/prospects before he retires pre-season.
    2 août 2023 à 0 h 53
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    I accept on ANA’s behalf
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    2 août 2023 à 4 h 2
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    I give you points for creativity, but Buffalo declines, they don't need a backup.

    MIN declines, even with retention they're to capped out and would need a backup.

    I get the Carter idea, but man that's a lot to shed Carter and 2M on Petry. I also just don't think Carter has any desire to retire so it doesn't much matter, he's playing this season.
    2 août 2023 à 16 h 58
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    Quoting: An80sPensfan
    Not if he’s traded to another team first…


    nope since it's a 35+ contract, even if he retires on another team, we still eat the cap hit
     
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