Holy frick no

Why?

If the Sabers did trade Tage for some odd reason it would be to a west coast team simular to the Eichel deal

Because Tage>>> pajama boi.

Sabres have absolutely zero reason to trade tage at all.

Unless an eastern conference team made an offer that would benefit the sabres. Their cap situation would remain more or less the same in this deal and they would be getting veteran leadership as well as 25-35 goals per year from john tavares. not as much of an offensive threat as thompson but when you consider the other aspects of their games this deal makes a lot more sense than what it does a first glance.

They do if the value is there, the sabres have been looking for a veteran who can lead the team with his words and with his ability to play the game. Tavares being of course that veteran leader can still put up 25-35 goals per year and he has better defensive numbers than Tage.

No it doesn’t at all. Tage is signed for 7 years. You held salary for 2 on JT. Tage is better than JT. The prospect is irrelevant (not even a prospect at age 25). The held salary makes it JT at Tages cap hit. So Buffalo gets the worse, older player for 2 years and then Tor gets the value contract for 5 years after, all to move up to late first rounder from a second (I know years are different). The trade is a joke

He’s mildly better defensively than Tage, but not particularly good at defense. He’s also mikes behind Tage in offensive production at their current ages. So Tage makes up for being a little more bad at defense by being way better at offense, signed for 7 years at a great value. It’s not close at all

Tage is already a leader along with tuch and dahlin. They have veteran presence from Okposo girgs and now Erik Johnson. Last time I checked 40- possibly 60 goals is better than so called "veteran leadership" and 25 goals. Also, a 25 year old 7x7 contract is a lot better than a 32 year old soon to be UFA. This trade is bad value and makes no sense for the Sabres.

I think you're missing the veteran leadership that JT would bring to the sabres, something they've lacked and needed for the last 5 years

I think you're missing the point that tage is far more valuable than JT and they already have veteran presence.

The veteran leadership that’s gotten the vastly superior leafs out of the first round 1 time in 5 years? Think Buffalo will pass on that “leadership”

Well I mean Buffalo can't make the playoffs without the veteran leadership so I'd take a trip to the playoffs with veteran leadership over golfing in april without it and day.

They don't have a veteran that can honestly contribute as well as be a leader in the locker room. Jeff Skinner may be a veteran with the ability to score but he's not a leader.

You keep throwing around this veteran idea like it's going to automatically change the value of this awful trade for buffalo. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

No I'm explaining the fact that Veteran Leadership adds value to this deal.

Good one. You aren’t wrong that Buffalo hasn’t made the playoffs. You are wrong in it’s good asset management to trade arguably a top 5 value contract and top 15 center in the NHL for a 2C who probably won’t be happy being traded from his childhood team and possibly become a malcontent. But leadership.

It doesn't

Kinda acting like it really is the only thing that matters. Because every other part of comparing the two guys leans at least a toss up to heavily Tage’s way. Also, my guess is the leadership goes out the window when he’s unwantedly traded

I never said leadership was the only thing that mattered, I did state that JT can still contribute great offensive numbers and is a better defensive player. but with leadership factoring as well, this deal becomes a lot less lopsided then you're assuming it to be

Yes it does

Tage contributes far better offense and minimally worse defensive numbers. This deal is very lopsided of you look at it through your leafs homer glasses.

JT isn’t good defensively. He’s neutral at best. And Tage isn’t terrible at it, he’s just mildly bad. So the impact JT has on the ice defensively doesn’t overtake the fact that Tage is vastly superior offensively. Now the leadership aspect. Do you really think that JT is gonna be happy being traded? Will be maintain being this obviously best leader in the NHL (that can’t push his team when needed)? Or will he become a problem because he forced his way to only TOR, and now is in a place he doesn’t want to be?

How about contract length? Does that matter to you? What about age? What about Tage growing with the young core together and becoming leaders themselves?

Literally makes zero sense and you trying to push it because “leadership” is laughable. Keep going if you want, this is terrible, you know it is, I’m done here.

Never trading Tavares

Tage put up 47 goals this year, JT scored 36, The offense isn't all towards Tage, and Tage only had 3 more assists than johnny with 47. So Tage isn't that much better offensively than Tavares. And Tavares is still better on the defensive side of the puck.