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Créé par: Kongol
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2023
Publié: 25 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Keller, Clayton
  3. McBain, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 1st. IF Matthews scores 50 or more goals in the regular season the Leafs get the 2025 1st. IF he doesn't reach the marker, the Leafs get their 2025 2nd and 2025 Arizona 3rd.
2.
TOR
  1. Melanson, Jacob
  2. Oleksiak, Jamie
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (SEA)
SEA
3.
TOR
  1. Cederqvist, Filip
  2. Greenway, Jordan
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Brodie, TJ (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Lafferty, Sam
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de ARI
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Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2026
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Logo de SEA
Logo de TOR
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Logo de TOR
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Logo de BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 263 417 $0 $0 $236 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 9
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Hard to gauge what Matthew is worth but this isnt enough. keller is incredible but there is a big difference between him and AM, and this doesnt fill it
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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Hard to gauge what Matthew is worth but this isnt enough. keller is incredible but there is a big difference between him and AM, and this doesnt fill it


I'm thinking the Yotes would have to throw in Cooley, another A prospect and 1st x2 and 2nd minimum
25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Hard to gauge what Matthew is worth but this isnt enough. keller is incredible but there is a big difference between him and AM, and this doesnt fill it


Quoting: BURGHgirl
I'm thinking the Yotes would have to throw in Cooley, another A prospect and 1st x2 and 2nd minimum


Matthews, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise. Giving up the equivalent of four firsts and a second on top of Keller, Crouse, and McBain for a rental is a non-starter for any team, especially a team like the Coyotes that is still rebuilding.
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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: KrakenTheCode
Matthews, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise. Giving up the equivalent of four firsts and a second on top of Keller, Crouse, and McBain for a rental is a non-starter for any team, especially a team like the Coyotes that is still rebuilding.


He would 100% need to come with an extension if this actually happened, but I was just thinking what it would take to even start the convo with Leaf fans. 😂 If I was the Yotes I would never give up those assets for one player. Screw that. Build a kick ass team and a new arena and lure him in free agency once he realizes he's had enough of his current club and snowy weather 👍
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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
I'm thinking the Yotes would have to throw in Cooley, another A prospect and 1st x2 and 2nd minimum


not a chance - AM is elite but as TML has shown you need more than a couple elite players to win, need a complete team and giving up 4 (1st rounder Ill consider a core player) core players makes the whole team weaker. Im AZ I dont do the OP trade and forget about cooley plus A prospect and more high picks added, good gawd thats idiotic.
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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 44
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not a chance - AM is elite but as TML has shown you need more than a couple elite players to win, need a complete team and giving up 4 (1st rounder Ill consider a core player) core players makes the whole team weaker. Im AZ I dont do the OP trade and forget about cooley plus A prospect and more high picks added, good gawd thats idiotic.


Look at the post right above yours. You read my mind. Haha
25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Hard to gauge what Matthew is worth but this isnt enough. keller is incredible but there is a big difference between him and AM, and this doesnt fill it


unless AM signs a long term deal he is not worth that much as a rental, except to team looking to win next year and willing to let him walk.

Not saying keller is as good as AM but dont forget keller had boyd as C for half the season and for the 20 games schmaltz was out had nick ritchie on other wing and outscored AM.
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25 juill. 2023 à 19 h 58
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Look at the post right above yours. You read my mind. Haha


look at vegas - Eichel (very very good not elite) top scorer 66pts (just under ppg) and JM top goals w 28 yet complete team wins cup. both of them would be 5th on TML last year
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25 juill. 2023 à 20 h 34
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He would 100% need to come with an extension if this actually happened, but I was just thinking what it would take to even start the convo with Leaf fans. 😂 If I was the Yotes I would never give up those assets for one player. Screw that. Build a kick ass team and a new arena and lure him in free agency once he realizes he's had enough of his current club and snowy weather 👍


yea just go build a kick ass team arizona, super easy! i know the last 27 years have proven the franchise is utterly incapable of it but i'm sure this time it's different! and btw, there's no new arena coming. tempe residents already voted to keep the existing landfill instead of relocating the maroon-coloured one in glendale.

matthews might end up a coyote someday tho... a houston coyote
25 juill. 2023 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: KrakenTheCode
Matthews, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise. Giving up the equivalent of four firsts and a second on top of Keller, Crouse, and McBain for a rental is a non-starter for any team, especially a team like the Coyotes that is still rebuilding.


Quoting: bwhsocal
unless AM signs a long term deal he is not worth that much as a rental, except to team looking to win next year and willing to let him walk.

Not saying keller is as good as AM but dont forget keller had boyd as C for half the season and for the 20 games schmaltz was out had nick ritchie on other wing and outscored AM.


Im not saying hed get a haul as a rental but it is true that its just so hard to gauge what he could get. Players like him are rarely available. its like Ohtani and Soto in baseball in a sense, where even for .5-1.5 seasons, they sill get a lot.
26 juill. 2023 à 0 h 27
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Dear Leafs fans,

The Sabres are NOT making a trade with Toronto
Find another team to take your Cap
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26 juill. 2023 à 9 h 28
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Hard to gauge what Matthew is worth but this isnt enough. keller is incredible but there is a big difference between him and AM, and this doesnt fill it
Quoting: BURGHgirl
I'm thinking the Yotes would have to throw in Cooley, another A prospect and 1st x2 and 2nd minimum
Quoting: KrakenTheCode
Matthews, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise. Giving up the equivalent of four firsts and a second on top of Keller, Crouse, and McBain for a rental is a non-starter for any team, especially a team like the Coyotes that is still rebuilding.
Quoting: bwhsocal
not a chance - AM is elite but as TML has shown you need more than a couple elite players to win, need a complete team and giving up 4 (1st rounder Ill consider a core player) core players makes the whole team weaker. Im AZ I dont do the OP trade and forget about cooley plus A prospect and more high picks added, good gawd thats idiotic.
Let me start, sometimes trading away a teams best player while adding depth will make a team better.
Matthews ($11,640,250 this year and $14,000,000 next year?) is amazing, but Crouse, Keller and McBain can PK (2:15, 0:35, 2:07 min/gm), are cost controlled for the next four years ($4,300,000, $7,150,000, RFA) while adding depth (37, 24, 12 goals last year) and grit (18, 194, 304 hits last year) to your team.
Use the draft picks from Nylander and this trade to make a pitch to Carolina for Pesce.
The Leafs gain cap certainty, grit, PK, and defense, while dropping goal production.
This trade could work out really well for both teams, just as the Eichel trade did for both Vegas and Buffalo, both were better the season after the trade.

Finally, the Buffalo trade.
Brodie, Niemala, 3rd for Stillman, Strbak.
Buffalo eats all the cap ($7,500,000 actual and $5,000,000 AVV) and gets RHD prospect.
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26 juill. 2023 à 13 h 31
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Let me start, sometimes trading away a teams best player while adding depth will make a team better.
Matthews ($11,640,250 this year and $14,000,000 next year?) is amazing, but Crouse, Keller and McBain can PK (2:15, 0:35, 2:07 min/gm), are cost controlled for the next four years ($4,300,000, $7,150,000, RFA) while adding depth (37, 24, 12 goals last year) and grit (18, 194, 304 hits last year) to your team.
Use the draft picks from Nylander and this trade to make a pitch to Carolina for Pesce.
The Leafs gain cap certainty, grit, PK, and defense, while dropping goal production.
This trade could work out really well for both teams, just as the Eichel trade did for both Vegas and Buffalo, both were better the season after the trade.

Finally, the Buffalo trade.
Brodie, Niemala, 3rd for Stillman, Strbak.
Buffalo eats all the cap ($7,500,000 actual and $5,000,000 AVV) and gets RHD prospect.


exactly why would AZ do this, oh i get why TML are in but AZ adds one elite player but makes weakens the team as a whole.
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