Matthews isn’t even the best player on his team and not even top 10 in the league and he’s overpaid

Your describing Nylander and Marner ? Draisitle without MacD is still a 90-110 point player.

Draisaitl is clearly a great player but you guys give him way too much credit. The one time he "outscored" McDavid was a year McDavid was hurt. And despite all oiler fans saying "they aren't on the same line!" They do play a fair amount 5v5 minutes together and all the pp minutes together where Draisaitl scores loads of his points. I am too lazy to look too deep but I bet 60+% of Draisaitl's points come with McDavid on the ice.

It's funny how a guy saying McDavid deserves way more credit for how he helps Draisaitl and your response is Matthews sucks. Hilarious

He's 110 point player with McDavid. He might be a 90 point player on his own but I wouldn't be surprised if he's not even that. Without McDavid he isn't turning Nuge and Hyman into point a game players. Take out McDavid and those two are 60 point players. Yes McDavid is that good.

Boston probably wants a pick

I just don’t know how u compare a player like matthews to the 2nd best player in the league

Draisaitl scored 128 points last season. He played 37% of his 5v5 TOI with McDavid. I don't think 110 is an unreasonable estimate if he didn't play at all with McDavid.

If he was traded to Toronto he would have Marner to play with, and a PP that included Marner, Tavares & Nylander. I could see 110+ easily.

MacKinnon and Matthews are both better than Draisaitl

Matthews In the last 2 seasons has had 675 shots on goal and scored exactly 100 times draisaitl has had 526 shots on goal and had 107 goals not only is draisaitl way better he is arguably a way better goal scorer and draisaitl on one leg is 10x the player matthews is.

Do some research bro google is free bro ur hockey knowledge needs some work

62 of those points are PP points. And a 3rd of his 5v5 time is with McDavid where I bet he scored another 30-40 of his points. That's close to 100 of his 128 points. This isn't a knock against Draisaitl, McDavid is so good he adds major points to anyone he plays with. Take McDavid off that PP and it goes from historic good to way way way worse. Take out 20-30+ PP points and half his 5V5 points they come from McDavid and that's a massive swing. McDavid is this good, put Matthews with McDavid and he might challenge Gretzky's goals in a season record. Why? Because he could push for 70 playing with Marner and a healthy season with McDavid and he'll score a pile more goals.

The point here is McDavid is that good. Draisaitl is not in the same sphere as McDavid.

McDavid is the reason why Draisaitl has so many points. Stop disrespecting McDavid

You keep repeating urself like a 12 year old matthews isn’t even the best player to come out of his draft Tkachuk>matthews

Your hockey knowledge is gonzo beyond your love of the Oilers. Draisaitl is a good player but benefits massively by playing with McDavid. God help you if McDavid gets hurt of leaves because this Oiler team doesn't make the playoffs without McDavid. Everyone will key on Draisaitl and he'll see his production drop by a huge amount. He's never the number 1 target of opposition game planning, almost half his points come on the PP with McDavid and he played 37% of his 5v5 minutes with McDavid where he likely scored over half his 5v5 points. Do some research and stop disrespecting McDavid.

Sure bud, so you hate the leafs more than your like the Oilers. Cool, get a hobby

If McDavid is that good, why is a guy he doesn't play with regularly always #2 in points and not one of his regular linemates? Zack Hyman, for instance, or Nugent-Hopkins. It's a nonsensical argument with no basis in fact.

If you analyze it, I think you'll find that McDavid benefits more from playing with Draisaitl than the other way around.

Because he does play with him regularly. Almost 40% of his 5v5 time and all his PP time are with McDavid and the majority of his points come in those minutes. I bet you are regretting the whole only 37% of his minutes eh?

Also Hyman and Nuge both had crazy major years and one of them spent more than 2/3rds of their 5v5 minutes away from McDavid.

Draisaitl was literally voted as the best passer in the league by players... and is also the top goal scorer over the past 5 seasons.

https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2022-23#:~:text=Once%20again%2C%20Leon%20Draisaitl%20earned,over%2010%25%20of%20the%20vote.

But yeah, it's all McDavid.

Chicago trade isn't realistic in this universe or any other

It's mostly McDavid. I think a lot of guys would outscore Draisaitl if they had the chance to play as many minutes as he does with McDavid. I honestly think Matthews could score 50 in 50 and push for a goal a game with McDavid. Lots of guys would have unreal numbers if they played as many minutes with McDavid as Draisaitl does. To deny that is just disrespectful to McDavid

You're right. Those NHL players don't have what they're talking about, they probably never even watch the games. And clearly the NHL statisticians got mixed up when they put all those goals to #29. Clearly they're all wrong and some random h8r Loafs fan on the internet is right.

You refuse to see reality. I am not sure why, because you have McDavid and that's all that matters here. McDavid is the best player in the world by a wide margin. He elevates everyone way beyond what they can do on their own. Draisaitl is the biggest benefactor of playing on the same team as McDavid. This isn't a slight against Draisaitl it's just reality. By your own admission, he plays nearly 40% of his 5v5 minutes with McDavid and all his PP time. And if you think anyone will produce the same if you take McDavid out of that equation, you are just disrespecting McDavid.

All those goals that Draisaitl scores when he's getting fed by McDavid or even just the extra space he'll get when the other team is so focused on MCDavid is substantial. Is he a play driver on his own? Yeah for sure, is he a star? Absolutely. Is he the 2nd best player in the world? Absolutely not. He gets loads of points because he plays significant minutes with the best player in the world. Does McDavid benefit from playing with Draisaitl? Sure, he's a lot better than Nuge and Hyman that's for sure. But to deny that McDavid is the guy making most of it happen is straight up diminishing his impact so you can hold up a flimsy argument that Draisaitl is better than he is.

You sure schooled all them NHL players who think Draisaitl is the best passer in the league! And all those NHL goalies who allowed Draisaitl to lead the league in goals over the past 5 years! You're smarter than all of them!