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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2023
Publié: 22 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
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1.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Schmaltz, Nick (850 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
3.
TOR
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $82 609 917 $0 $0 $890 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 1

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22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 30
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The Arizona trade is unnecessary
22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 33
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Zona doesn't do that. We would need to offer more than that.
22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 36
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You aren't close on any of those trades. You need to send alot more value to the other teams.
22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 39
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Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value than Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?
22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 56
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Only way SJ is taking on veteran contracts is if its part of a Karlsson deal. Not a chance they take a 3rd goalie for that crap offer.
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 13
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Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value then Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?


Necas does not have more value then Nylander The UFA/RFA status has little impact compared to a proven 40 goal scorer hitting his prime. Necas is half the cap hit of Nylander because he is half the value of Nylander. Nylander's number will be higher on a team where he gets the prime minutes and not behind #34 and #16.
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Necas does not have more value then Nylander The UFA/RFA status has little impact compared to a proven 40 goal scorer hitting his prime. Necas is half the cap hit of Nylander because he is half the value of Nylander. Nylander's number will be higher on a team where he gets the prime minutes and not behind #34 and #16.


Necas had 18 less points or something? You think he's got half the value? Are you delusional? A rental Nylander... Nylander's production will plummet the second he doesn't get time with Matthews or Tavares. We saw that he struggled in the postseason too with just one primary point all playoffs... stop it. Necas has his playoff demons, but at least he's 2 years younger, has half the cap hit, and had comparable production to Nylander. Get outta here
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 24
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value than Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?


I agree with this. Necas has a lower cap hit and seems like he will sign a 8x8 as an extention.
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22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 32
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Necas had 18 less points or something? You think he's got half the value? Are you delusional? A rental Nylander... Nylander's production will plummet the second he doesn't get time with Matthews or Tavares. We saw that he struggled in the postseason too with just one primary point all playoffs... stop it. Necas has his playoff demons, but at least he's 2 years younger, has half the cap hit, and had comparable production to Nylander. Get outta here


Necas has had 1 good season. Nylander has put up great numbers every year. Nylander has been a PPG player in the playoffs the last 3 years.

Necas at best is a 30 goal scorer HEs not a gamebreaker like Nylander

What is Necas AVV going to be next year?
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 50
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Necas has had 1 good season. Nylander has put up great numbers every year. Nylander has been a PPG player in the playoffs the last 3 years.

Necas at best is a 30 goal scorer HEs not a gamebreaker like Nylander

What is Necas AVV going to be next year?


Nylander has had 2 seasons of this quality. Necas is 2 years younger and has 1 already.

You ask what Necas' AAV is going to be, what's Nylanders going to be? Plus, Nylander can walk away. Necas cannot. He's got team control.
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22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 19
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Only way SJ is taking on veteran contracts is if its part of a Karlsson deal. Not a chance they take a 3rd goalie for that crap offer.


Leaf fans have been spending their time at the cottages telling themselves that every day that passes Murray becomes a more valuable asset.

Nylander being a Toronto UFA to be has tremendous value. If Nylander was coming from a US team to toronto the offer would be murray, robertson and 3rd
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22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 20
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It is interesting, the fact you got Pesce AND Necas for Nylander.
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22 juill. 2023 à 19 h 8
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Necas is not being traded for Nylaner unless Nylander has an acceptable extension
22 juill. 2023 à 19 h 34
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Nylander has had 2 seasons of this quality. Necas is 2 years younger and has 1 already.

You ask what Necas' AAV is going to be, what's Nylanders going to be? Plus, Nylander can walk away. Necas cannot. He's got team control.


Nylander has been putting up points since he joined the league he has 2 x PPG seasons and 5 seasons like Necas best season (this year) He has shown constancy.

as far as both their AVVs after this season that's my point they will be similar so that plays very little into Necas value for this season.

Necas does not have the same celling as Nylander so 2 years younger is irrelevant He's a 20 or 30 goal scorer at best Nylander is a minimum 30 goal scorer
22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 41
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Nylander has been putting up points since he joined the league he has 2 x PPG seasons and 5 seasons like Necas best season (this year) He has shown constancy.

as far as both their AVVs after this season that's my point they will be similar so that plays very little into Necas value for this season.

Necas does not have the same celling as Nylander so 2 years younger is irrelevant He's a 20 or 30 goal scorer at best Nylander is a minimum 30 goal scorer


So you're saying they have the same potential as 30 goal scorers? Necas put up 28 this year when he played with Kotkaniemi and his linemate (Svechnikov) had his cruciate ligament detonate 2 months before the end of the season. Necas can easily hit 35+, and Nylander likely doesn't his 40 if he's not playing with the loaded talent around him. On top of that, Necas is just a better playmaker with the better speed. It's actually 3 years in age between Necas and Nylander, my mistake. Necas was 2017 draft class, Nylander was 2014. Even still, Necas is just the more valuable player here purely because of Nylanders rental status. Extended Nylander at a reasonable amount (say, 8.5x8) sure, absolutely. Rental? Nah, because of that team control on Necas
 
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