Nope, not our first.

Hanifin trades are so tiresome.

Yzerman has a thing for overpaying d

Wow, that's a serious overpay.

Also not something CGY considers.

Also has an NTC.

That's a really bad trade for Detroit and then you give him a way too big contract. We literally have 15 LHD in our system and some very very good young ones, Hanifin isn't needed.

Yes it is.

So are trades involving Murray and a 1st.

These arguments happen literally everyday, you'd think people would get tired of talking about it and stop posting the trades.

I mean, sure?
It's not a "how can we make this about the Leafs" moment since that trade is proposed here, but I also don't really care for any Murray acquisition. Murray prob gets bought out.

PuzzledActuary is a prospect cynic. Basically thinks they're paperweights until they break into the league.

No, it's not. They would get a much better offer for Hanifin than this.

Fabbri is worthless, the first is nice and Wallinder is a really nice looking prospect that still hasn't touched NA ice.

Take Fabbri out and include another nice prospect or pick, and then it's something to consider. However the Wings are better off keeping Wallinder and riding out his development at this point.

Well that sort of happens when a player says I don’t want to play for you and I want to play in the USA.

Cap is going up. Might never turn out to be a great contract but it’s a calculated risk knowing there is flexibility coming via cap increases.

NTC is not as relevant when you want out and to play in the USA.

Maybe, but the amount of times we've heard "Player X only wants to play for team Y", and then it doesn't end up happening are quite numerous.

PLD is the latest example.

It’s not about who he wants to play for it’s who/where he doesn’t want to play. That’s all I am saying.

LOL $9,5mx7 for Noah Hanifin, Only player that's going to that much is Moritz Seider. There's absolutely no freaking way Yzerman is paying Hanifin that much money and term.

Tell me you don't watch hockey without telling me you don't watch hockey.

Dude i'm pretty sure i've watched more hockey games in my lifetime then you've been alive. I've been a hockey fan for over 52 years now. And i've been a Tampa Bay Lightning season ticket holder for the past 30 years. I'm sure my knowledge for hockey is far greater than yours.

Then explain to me why Darnell Nurse gets $9.5m under a historical cap constraint and why Hanifin doesn't sniff $9m?