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Créé par: dougbailey
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2023
Publié: 19 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Backlund, Mikael (1 350 000 $ retained)
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UFA - 1
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813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
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19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 35
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A 3C ain't enough for a 1RD... Canes pass. I don't mind Backlund, would absolutely welcome him in Raleigh, but this is just not enough
19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 36
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well that was fun...
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19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 38
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Gonna be a quick and easy no. Could see canes inquiring on backlund at some point this year for some future picks, dealing pesce straight up for him isn’t even a consideration. Not to mention it’s probably likely CGY isn’t on his list.
19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Caniac2000
A 3C ain't enough for a 1RD... Canes pass. I don't mind Backlund, would absolutely welcome him in Raleigh, but this is just not enough


What do you expect ur gonna get back for a rental player honestly would like to know what u think
19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 53
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Not expecting to ship Pesce out as a rental. I would just keep him and take another stab at an extension a bit later.
19 juill. 2023 à 13 h 59
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What do you expect ur gonna get back for a rental player honestly would like to know what u think


Rental, but he's also such a good player. I'd expect a 1st, young D man, and a prospect. If he wasn't a rental, I'd expect a lot more for a guy that is among the best RD in hockey
19 juill. 2023 à 14 h 7
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Pesce is a UFA next year, likely won't waive for Calgary and is considerably more valuable than Backs. Plus it would be insane to play him on our 3rd pair

Trading Hanifin for Debrusk makes no sense because he's also UFA and we'd have to overpay to keep him
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19 juill. 2023 à 14 h 18
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Rental, but he's also such a good player. I'd expect a 1st, young D man, and a prospect. If he wasn't a rental, I'd expect a lot more for a guy that is among the best RD in hockey

That would probably be the greatest return of all time if that happened for a guy who isn’t even a top 10 RD and is a rental
19 juill. 2023 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: Caniac2000
A 3C ain't enough for a 1RD... Canes pass. I don't mind Backlund, would absolutely welcome him in Raleigh, but this is just not enough


rose colored glasses much? Pesce is a good hockey player that is very capable of playing top 4 minutes but he is not a 1D by any stretch of the imagination. This would be the exact same as me saying Jordan Stall ain't enough for Chris Tanev. Pesce for Backlund might not be a 1 for 1 but they are way closer than you seem to think.

Regardless Pesce being an American player 1 year from UFA isn't going to sign an extension in Calgary so the point is moot
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19 juill. 2023 à 14 h 45
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That would probably be the greatest return of all time if that happened for a guy who isn’t even a top 10 RD and is a rental


Pesce is a top 10 RD though...
19 juill. 2023 à 15 h 4
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Bruins not doing that. Defense and Goaltending depth is already good.
19 juill. 2023 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Pesce is a top 10 RD though...

I would take the following players over pesce
Ekblad
Makar
Fox
Carlson
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Mcavoy
Hamilton
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He ain’t top 10 RD he may be a great player but he’s not what u think
19 juill. 2023 à 15 h 19
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I would take the following players over pesce
Ekblad
Makar
Fox
Carlson
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Mcavoy
Hamilton
Heiskanen
Pulock
Seider
Spurgeon
Karlson
Bouchard
Carlo
He ain’t top 10 RD he may be a great player but he’s not what u think


Pesce is better than Carlson, Pulock, Seider, Spurgeon, Bouchard and Carlo.

Carlson is AWFUL defensively, and his offense just doesn't make up for it, he's incredibly overrated. Pulock is a make-a-wish Pesce. Seider is a lot like Zegras, he's flashy but he's overrated. He's a fine 2nd pairing D man, Pesce is a 1RD. Spurgeon is close, but I'd rather have Pesce. Bouchard is comical, Pesce is just better in all 3 zones, and I've had this debate with Oilers fans. Carlo made me actually laugh. You can't be serious with that right?
19 juill. 2023 à 15 h 43
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What do you expect ur gonna get back for a rental player honestly would like to know what u think


What makes Pesce a rental? Because he has one year remaining on his deal? Cant you argue that both players are rentals then?
19 juill. 2023 à 15 h 52
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What makes Pesce a rental? Because he has one year remaining on his deal? Cant you argue that both players are rentals then?


My man with the prize winning statement...
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19 juill. 2023 à 16 h 8
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I would take the following players over pesce
Ekblad
Makar
Fox
Carlson
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Mcavoy
Hamilton
Heiskanen
Pulock
Seider
Spurgeon
Karlson
Bouchard
Carlo
He ain’t top 10 RD he may be a great player but he’s not what u think


Don’t think he’s too 10, but I’d take him over Bouchard and Carlo at least in the short term. Probably closer to 15ish range for me. Now adding in age and contracts complicated that ranking, so that’s a whole other can of worms.
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19 juill. 2023 à 16 h 27
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Quoting: arab05
What makes Pesce a rental? Because he has one year remaining on his deal? Cant you argue that both players are rentals then?


I don’t think backlund is enough to get pesce but I don’t think pesce is worth a 1st round pick young defensemen and a decent prospect
19 juill. 2023 à 16 h 31
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What makes Pesce a rental? Because he has one year remaining on his deal? Cant you argue that both players are rentals then?


Also backlund would probably be willing to re sign for a lot cheaper as for pesce from what I’m hearing is looking for term and a big pay raise
19 juill. 2023 à 16 h 32
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Don’t think he’s too 10, but I’d take him over Bouchard and Carlo at least in the short term. Probably closer to 15ish range for me. Now adding in age and contracts complicated that ranking, so that’s a whole other can of worms.

W take honestly and maybe some would agree pesce is better than Carlo and Bouchard but he definitely ain’t more valuable
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19 juill. 2023 à 16 h 35
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W take honestly and maybe some would agree pesce is better than Carlo and Bouchard but he definitely ain’t more valuable


Yeah Carlo contract and Bouchard cost control and potential definitely vault them ahead in overall and long term value. It’s why Canes can’t find a deal for Pesce - they probably are stuck at 4ish years and he wants the 7-8 year deal.
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19 juill. 2023 à 18 h 12
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Also backlund would probably be willing to re sign for a lot cheaper as for pesce from what I’m hearing is looking for term and a big pay raise


Yeah, Backlund is 34. He gets cheaper at this point. But production could drop off at any time. That would strictly be a short term fix. Pesce is 28 and should get a raise but I wouldn't want more than 4-5 years tops.
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21 juill. 2023 à 1 h 3
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Yeah, Backlund is 34. He gets cheaper at this point. But production could drop off at any time. That would strictly be a short term fix. Pesce is 28 and should get a raise but I wouldn't want more than 4-5 years tops.


True but Backlund is very fit, and he is your replacement for Bergeron for 2-way play, he gets many Selke trophy votes every year
 
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