The Leafs are in quite a bind right now. It looks likely that Matt Murray is going to get boughtout within the next 5 - 7 days, but even after that another move will have to be made. I highly doubt Timmins is going to get waived given his good play with the Leafs, his low cost, his term, and also just based on the upside that is still there. He is a bigger RD with great offense and a good defensive upside. He is apart of our future, and I think that the amount of Leafs fans willing to quit on the guy and risk him to waivers is insane. Plus, even if we go down that route, we can only ice a 20 man roster. It just makes zero sense to oust a guy making 1.1 mil.
One guy that I could honestly see being moved is Brodie. Don't get it twisted, I love Brodie as a player and think his style is perfect for the Leafs. He is a very good player. The issue is that he makes 5 million dollars. He is certainly a positive asset and would be sought after if he were to become available. He is pretty low risk, plays both LD and RD, and is among the best defensive defenseman in the league. It is honestly kind of weird that he may be the guy moved, but I think it may be a route worth exploring. I'm almost certain Liljegren is going to get a real shot in the top 4, and Klingberg will most likely be paired with McCabe on that second pair, so that leaves Brodie for the third pair. We simply can't give a guy 5 mil and play him on the bottom pair.
One team that I think makes sense for Brodie is Vancouver. They have clearly (and rightfully) made reworking their blueline a priority. They brought in Soucy who is an excellent defenseman, Cole who is no slouch, and rid themselves of OEL. Getting a guy like Brodie would make them a very dangerous team, and could give them a decent partner for Soucy. It would also push Myers down the depth chart which is always nice. The fit seems perfect for the Canucks. It would certainly hurt the Leafs to lose Brodie, but clearing his money gives us more flexibility and doesn't sacrifice our goalscoring.
There is a lot riding on Timmins and Liljegren here, but I think it's a risk worth taking. It is certainly a better risk to take than risking Timmins to waivers for nothing based on how valuable his contract is to the team alone. Liljegren has shown that he can be a proper top 4 NHL defenseman. He and Giordano made up our best defensive pairing just a year ago. He is easily a guy that could work for the Leafs. Timmins is also a very good NHL defenseman whose defensive coverage is actually really good. I feel like he gets a reputation of being a pure offensive defenseman just because he put up a few points, but he is no slouch defensively. It's definitely not the strongest part of his game, but it is above average. He is a good, not waiver fodder. We can also pick up a guy like Caleb Jones to help provide some more defensive coverage. I really like him as a buy low target on the free agency market. Ethan Bear could also be a nice addition, although he is out for a while. I really like him though and would be willing to wait for him. He could rotate with Timmins for the rest of the season after his return before being an every day contributor next year in place of Klingberg
Timmins really doesn't have top 4 upside. Through watching him he's like Dermott a guy people keep saying has potential for top 4 but is always best suited for third pair. Yes there's injuries but we saw whenever he was in the top 4 he struggled
And in terms of Klingberg vs Timmins Klingbergs better offensively. Pappetti highlighted that with stats from 2 years ago. This is a guy who with the leafs can give them 15 goals and 60 points while being an effective puckmoving point shot Dman.
It's been a few years, but at least there's been some big seasons from John Klingberg in the past. pic.twitter.com/a2WGuwLEwR
Guy just doesn't make sense for us rn or in the future get a low pick and move on
I said Liligren after his first year lol.
But, you are judging Timmins as a bottom.pair defenseman after 66 NHL games. His game right now certainly is bottom pairing, but if he stays healthy, I see possibilities. Your Dermott comparison although interesting, is off. After Dermotts' first full season of NHL action, most thought he had top 4 upside as well. And he struggled on what was at that time, a bad blueline...... what I don't like about analytics. They tell a story, but only part. In Timmins case, his health has been a major factor in his development. He could very well end up being a bottom pairing guy, or he could be a #4 guy..... simply doesn't have the sample size yet. Dermott after a couple years did. We can agree to disagree on Timmins. Player valuation is in the eye of the beholder.
We will disagree on Klingberg's fit in Toronto. Simply not the guy I would have targeted.....at all.
Can't accrue cap space we are in LTIR next season with Muzzin's contract. It's all cash in cash out unless we move him. It kinda makes sense why tampa's trade deadline moves look insane cause they've been riding Seabrook's contract for the past couple years.
I know accuring cap while on LTIR is possible, but it is complicated. And it maybe a case where Muzzin's contract is too much to do it.
Moving Muzzin's contract maybe in the cards then..... should take much to do that either. Just a shame, as he was still active in the dressing room the while time.
When injuries happen Toronto just shoves the guy on LTIR and uses emergency recall thats what most if not all teams do now.
LTIR means missing 10 games and requires medical assessment. Most injuries don't last that long. Better hope not more than 1 skater is injured at any one time.
LTIR means missing 10 games and requires medical assessment. Most injuries don't last that long. Better hope not more than 1 skater is injured at any one time.
Have u not been watching Toronto games guy gets hurt within 2 days LTIR these past 2 years
Rarely u see a TML on IR its always oh hes hurt add to LTIR move on
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