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Best case for 23-24

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2023
Publié: 10 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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*Reinbacher would start in MTL and give him a try for 10 games to see if he can contribute at the NHL level right off the bat; If not, you send him back to Lava and bring back Wideman on the Scratches.

You buy-out Hoffman and Armia, both won't have a major impact on the Cap Hit during the next years. Hoffman will be a 1.6M hit in 24-25, and Armia a max of 1.4M$ until 26-27. With expiring contracts and younger team, you have more than enough space to resign next year and the year after.

Yes, I'm putting up the Lafreni;ere deal again. Simple, he was a Gorton pick, he believes in him, NYR won't have enough to sign him IF, and only IF, they want to sign either Kane or Tarasenko again. THey could also go for Krejci if they are willing to bring him in. Case is that I don't know another GM willing to spare some depth, a prospect, plus 3 picks other than Gorton fro Lafrenière. THis would close the case on his file in NY and provide some good return at very low cost for NYR. The picks could become very valuable for them to either move another contract around before the trade deadline, or during next summer. THey have multiple high paying contracts so this could be viewed as a potential good risk for them. Laffy ain't the 100Pts player he was seen as. He'll be a potential 70 to 80 Pts max if he ever gets there.
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Lafrenière would be welcomed in MTL, but he's not worth the current price I'm offering. Having only levelled up to less than a 40Pts season in 3 years, he isn't the generational player he was seen to be when he was drafted.

I'm overpaying for him since Gorton was the man in place when they picked him 1st overall. I'M thinking he's the only one that would, could overpay to get his services.
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  2. Pitlick, Rem (550 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
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Habs provide 3 picks, including the CAL 1st rounder.
THey provide a well rounded 4th liner at minimal cost to help NYR with their cap space; They can resign Tarasenko, Kane or even try to get Krejci to move Goodrow or Chytil on the wing.
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10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 26
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I would recommend to play him on the left not right. He is so much more comfortable playing left.
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 29
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I don’t know why fans of every team think Laffy can play RW. If he could then rangers would have solidified their top 6
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 30
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Rangers likely wouldn’t take that offer - it’s not about the value, it’s more about the fit. They’re more likely to try to develop him this year under a new coach and give him more ice time to see what they have, if he’s moved it’ll be next summer or at the deadline but regardless it’s not going to be for picks and prospects but for immediate help. Could maybe see him in a deal for Anderson if it’s to Montreal, but it has to be someone that’s already established in the league.

Montreal also can’t buy out Hoffman or Armia. In order for them to have another buyout window they needed to have someone file for arbitration - & unless I missed it I don’t think they have anyone scheduled for arbitration so they can’t buy anyone out
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 31
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Offer sheet Laf, that is too much.
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 43
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Too much filler give us something actually worth our time if you’re gonna take an important piece of our roster
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 50
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I would recommend to play him on the left not right. He is so much more comfortable playing left.


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I would recommend to play him on the left not right. He is so much more comfortable playing left.


I agree completely. The Rangers have totally mis-managed Laffy at RW.
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 51
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The Rangers aren't trading Laf for future draft picks. They still would not have the space for Tarasenko even if they did that.

As tempting as it would be to unite the Pitlick cousins on a line, this is an easy decline for the Rangers.
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 53
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I don’t know why fans of every team think Laffy can play RW. If he could then rangers would have solidified their top 6


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I don’t know why fans of every team think Laffy can play RW. If he could then rangers would have solidified their top 6


I agree. The presence of the Breadman is the reason. Check out AG-Sweden's thread "The solution to all our troubles" for further commentary.
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 56
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I agree. The presence of the Breadman is the reason. Check out AG-Sweden's thread "The solution to all our troubles" for further commentary.


lol he proposes to get rid of Panarin which would be a huge mistake. Who would make up for his 90 point production?
10 juill. 2023 à 15 h 57
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You clearly state that the trade particulars need some work but the spirit of what you are trying to get to I get. As a very long time Rangers fans, if Laffy were to come to Montréal, LW is the proper position to play him at.
10 juill. 2023 à 16 h 8
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lol he proposes to get rid of Panarin which would be a huge mistake. Who would make up for his 90 point production?


He's got three years left on his contract, and there will be no Cup during that time. Guaranteed. The Rangers we'll be even longer in the tooth by then. They need to start transitioning, the sooner the better. Off loading the awful contract of Artemi, Trouba and Goodrow are a good place to start. I don't know how old you are, but that is what they did in 1994, there Cup year when they trade Mike Gartner, a career 700+ goal scorer. Mark Messier and Coach Mike Keenan where the architects of that move. More grit was required, and they brought in some bruisers. The New York Oiler-Hawks. I'm sure if you were around back then, you would be telling Mess the same thing you're telling me now.

BTW - Mike Gartner never played on a cup winner, and neither will the Breadman. Look it up!!!
10 juill. 2023 à 16 h 17
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He's got three years left on his contract, and there will be no Cup during that time. Guaranteed. The Rangers we'll be even longer in the tooth by then. They need to start transitioning, the sooner the better. Off loading the awful contract of Artemi, Trouba and Goodrow are a good place to start. I don't know how old you are, but that is what they did in 1994, there Cup year when they trade Mike Gartner, a career 700+ goal scorer. Mark Messier and Coach Mike Keenan where the architects of that move. More grit was required, and they brought in some bruisers. The New York Oiler-Hawks. I'm sure if you were around back then, you would be telling Mess the same thing you're telling me now.

BTW - Mike Gartner never played on a cup winner, and neither will the Breadman. Look it up!!!


Why would you offload Panarin and not some one like Kreider lol that makes 0 sense. The panthers went to the cup finals with an average roster and red hot goalie
10 juill. 2023 à 16 h 43
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Rangers pass
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Why would you offload Panarin and not some one like Kreider lol that makes 0 sense. The panthers went to the cup finals with an average roster and red hot goalie


No. It about his CAP hit and his lack of defense mostly. I have been a Ranger fan for 65+ years, and I mention this because over that time span the best Ranger teams were the Hatfield, Ratelle, and Gilbert, the greatest line the Rangers have put on the ice in my lifetime. Ed Giacomin in goal. You will find their jerseys up in the Garden rafters. But they couldn't win a cup. Reason, lack of grit. The other was the team I referred to in my previous post.

And the current Ranger team lacks grit. Don't tell me about Trouba or Fox, or Lindgren. I could make the same case about Fox at playoff time as I did with the Breadman come playoff time. And he like Artemi, is great playmaker, no question. I'm more in the Gallant camp, give me big D-men that can play D. The Montréal pair of Larry Robinson and Serge Savard immediately come to mind. Big, solid D-men could play it anyway you wanted to. And when they dropped the gloves, they got the job done. They were part of the 4 consecutive cup teams of the late 1970's.

If you watched the recent Stanley Cup final, this is exactly what Vegas did to Florida. Moved em' off and moved em' on. Every cup winner over the past 65 years has always had grit and strong D. Fox and Lindgren do not move em' off and moved em' on.
10 juill. 2023 à 17 h 51
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No. It about his CAP hit and his lack of defense mostly. I have been a Ranger fan for 65+ years, and I mention this because over that time span the best Ranger teams were the Hatfield, Ratelle, and Gilbert, the greatest line the Rangers have put on the ice in my lifetime. Ed Giacomin in goal. You will find their jerseys up in the Garden rafters. But they couldn't win a cup. Reason, lack of grit. The other was the team I referred to in my previous post.

And the current Ranger team lacks grit. Don't tell me about Trouba or Fox, or Lindgren. I could make the same case about Fox at playoff time as I did with the Breadman come playoff time. And he like Artemi, is great playmaker, no question. I'm more in the Gallant camp, give me big D-men that can play D. The Montréal pair of Larry Robinson and Serge Savard immediately come to mind. Big, solid D-men could play it anyway you wanted to. And when they dropped the gloves, they got the job done. They were part of the 4 consecutive cup teams of the late 1970's.

If you watched the recent Stanley Cup final, this is exactly what Vegas did to Florida. Moved em' off and moved em' on. Every cup winner over the past 65 years has always had grit and strong D. Fox and Lindgren do not move em' off and moved em' on.


This team would be horrendous without Panarin lol i don’t know who you think would replace him or how their offense would survive without him

I didn’t hear this crybaby fanbase complain when we were winning last year or when Panarin had 90+ points in 60 games
10 juill. 2023 à 18 h 4
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This team would be horrendous without Panarin lol i don’t know who you think would replace him or how their offense would survive without him

I didn’t hear this crybaby fanbase complain when we were winning last year or when Panarin had 90+ points in 60 games


Let's just agree that we disagree. They are horrendous with him. Why, his contract. Add Trouba's and Goodrow's as well. I could even make a case for Fox (too much, too soon). These contract's put the Rangers in a real bind year after year. Because of them they can't retain Copp, Vatrano, Motte, Taresenko ..................

I don't represent the fanbase, and neither do you. I think for myself, which means I don't always go along with the crowd. If the Rangers insist on retaining this overpriced collection of beef, no cup for the next three years, and a least 5 more after that. Perhaps we will be on the same page the next time.
10 juill. 2023 à 18 h 6
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Let's just agree that we disagree. They are horrendous with him. Why, his contract. Add Trouba's and Goodrow's as well. I could even make a case for Fox (too much, too soon). These contract's put the Rangers in a real bind year after year. Because of them they can't retain Copp, Vatrano, Motte, Taresenko ..................

I don't represent the fanbase, and neither do you. I think for myself, which means I don't always go along with the crowd. If the Rangers insist on retaining this overpriced collection of beef, no cup for the next three years, and a least 5 more after that. Perhaps we will be on the same page the next time.


Every team has bad contracts lol and it’s only a problem because Covid ruined those two years of the league otherwise the rangers would have cap

I don’t know what players you’d rather target or what you’d change besides getting rid of “bad” contacts
10 juill. 2023 à 18 h 17
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I tried working through a 24-25 and 25-26 scenarios. I'm not trying to duck your question. But it turns out to be and exercise in futility until the K'Andre and Laffy situation is resolved.

What I will say is there is a problem that is looming. In 25-26, then only way to pay Igor what he is worth ($9.5M seems to be maximum the Rangers can afford) is to trade Panarin. Go to the buyout calculator and buyout Artemi final year. It's a total joke, typical of the Ranger front office boondoggle.
10 juill. 2023 à 21 h 48
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I'm pretty sure Drury would rather pay a team a 1st to dump Goodrow before trading Laf.

I doubt he has plans to resign Senko or Kane unless 1 of them is willing to take a major discount, so this situation isn't realistic.
 
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