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Do you or do you not

Équipe: 2023-24 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 4 juill. 2023
Publié: 4 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Do you pay to trade Lehner’s contract of the books, or just let him sit on LTIR. Trading him and getting under the cap allows you to accumulate cap space throughout the season until the deadline. Keep him and keep the pick and AHL type Dman. Both have positives and negatives to doing it, but they are under the cap even with a full 23 man roster regardless of what they do.
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    1. Lehner, Robin
    2. Mayo, Dysin
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $82 723 317 $0 $0 $776 683 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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    UFA - 5
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    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
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    UFA - 1
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    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    C, AG
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AD
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    UFA - 4
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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    5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
    C
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    UFA - 4
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 4
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
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    762 500 $762 500 $
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    UFA - 1
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
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    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    DG
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    UFA - 1
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    8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    766 667 $766 667 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    2 294 150 $2 294 150 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3

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    4 juill. 2023 à 11 h 17
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    If I’m the Hawks, I would want to make sure Lehner’s contract is covered by insurance, otherwise the deal is not worth the cash payout.
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    4 juill. 2023 à 11 h 19
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    Insurance was a good point. I do think from the LVK point if view. It would be nice to accrue cap space during the year for another run. That'll go a long way and hopefully McCrimmon learned from JBB's mistake. That's why he needed to pay through the nose on Jeannot. Be forewarned that might be the cost for an acquisition come TDL if the LVK keep him.
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    4 juill. 2023 à 11 h 27
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    Swapping dollars for draft capital is always a good move IMO, but the insurance issue would be the key here. Lehner is owed $10.5m actual money and I think that's a lot for a future 2nd. That said, if this deal happened I wouldn't hate it. Draft picks are good.
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    4 juill. 2023 à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: Snowhawk18
    If I’m the Hawks, I would want to make sure Lehner’s contract is covered by insurance, otherwise the deal is not worth the cash payout.


    Great point on insurance. Not sure Myself. But I think Vegas is actually in an OK position because it really just comes down to if they want to pay the cost of moving. He can sit on LTIR for them if they want, and they could easily send Pachal through waivers and sign a true 4th C, up to 1.5 million or so then if they wanted.
    4 juill. 2023 à 12 h 2
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    Quoting: Snowhawk18
    If I’m the Hawks, I would want to make sure Lehner’s contract is covered by insurance, otherwise the deal is not worth the cash payout.


    Can you explain insurance to me? Is it simply that insurance pays his salary or a portion?

    I think if you’re under the cap and can put him on LTIR at beginning of season then keep your assets.
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    4 juill. 2023 à 12 h 14
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    Quoting: Jco5ta5
    Can you explain insurance to me? Is it simply that insurance pays his salary or a portion?

    I think if you’re under the cap and can put him on LTIR at beginning of season then keep your assets.



    My understanding is some contracts are covered by the insurance company, while others may not be depending several factors but most notable is a players injury history.

    Obviously a player who’s contract is not covered by insurance is more difficult to move because the money now comes out of he acquiring teams pockets.
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    4 juill. 2023 à 12 h 34
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    Quoting: Jco5ta5
    Can you explain insurance to me? Is it simply that insurance pays his salary or a portion?

    I think if you’re under the cap and can put him on LTIR at beginning of season then keep your assets.


    The advantage of being under and then trading him, is you accumulate cap space all season long. So you can makes deals at the deadline and lower those costs because you don’t need retention.

    This roster was a full 23 man roster. If I could trade Lehner, and then send Pachal to AHL, that puts them 1.5 million under with 22 guys.

    That 1.5 on opening day, is probably worth like 4-5 million on TDL depending on season injuries.
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