um what exactly is the actual trade?

Yeah, what is the proposal? lol

I ain't reading all that

I'm happy for u tho

Or sorry that happened

Apparently he’s trying to talk himself & others into the thinking that we don’t need DeBrincat bc our coach can develop Olofsson into a 2way player

I don’t hate Olofsson
But i also don’t expect him to become good defensively either

Olofsson whose primary line mates had a total of 22 goals outscored DeBrincat whose primary line mates had nearly double that 42 goals.

LOL, it should have rather obvious that there was not a trade only a comparison of DeBrincat to Olofsson.
Alex is said to have a value of several first round picks while Victor is considered a cap dump.

Of course it is a mock trade, keeping Olofsson and his 28 goals while not giving up assets to obtain a 27 goal winger.

The balance was to explain the rational for the lines and defensive pairings.
Few people read the explaination before the trade so I thought I would put in place of trades.
This also should have been very obvious if one took the time to read it.

I see... I don't dislike Olofsson at all, I would take him as part of the return for DeBrincat but there's just not in the same tiers. For DeBrincat, it's either you need a top line scorer or don't. The "talk" is that he had a down year and he's not that good away from Kane but the reality is he only had 12 pts less than his career high playing with a rookie center (who missed the whole season in 21-22) and another guy who had his own problems (major injury, 2018 WJC attention). He would have been easily PPG if he had the chance to play with Stutzle and Giroux instead of Tkachuk.

Some will also point out to his +/- but don't understand that Ottawa is a mess of a hockey system, coaching just can't get them to play 2-way. It's either they score a lot and get scored a lot or they focus on defense and don't score enough. Only top notch players defensively like Giroux, Norris, Sanderson, Greig and Brannstrom won't be affected too much by coaching. Pinto will get there but he was a rookie coming back from a full season missed and put in a role he was not ready for. Players like DeBrincat and Batherson can be adequate defensively in the right system but in Ottawa's mess, they won't. The year before, Batherson was in the + because he had Norris as his center. Norris missed the full season so ADB didn't have that chance




No problem it's your ACGM and you can talk about what you want but just wanted to note that referring to DeBrincat as a "27 goal winger" is not going to help paint a clear picture of the reality. You know who else just had 27 goals? Pierre-Luc Dubois. I'm not saying ADB will return as much but GMs usually look at a much bigger picture than fans. And look at Anthony Duclair, 31 goals in 2021-22... Just traded for a 4th liner and a pick. Why? Because there's a whole context to it.

And these contexts is how I personally try to gauge a realistic value on players, I go much farther than name recognition. That's how I know that PLD > DeBrincat >> Olofsson > Duclair in terms of value

Here’s the thing with DeBrincat….
Is he good? YES
Did he have a down year with u guys? Also, YES
So there’s good & bad there affecting his potential trade value
BUT
If a team does wanna trade for him, then they’re obviously betting the down year was a fluke
Teams know they’ll still have to “pay up” to a degree if they want him

This issue (as i see it) is,
will he sign a long term deal with the team that acquired him?
And how big & long will that deal have to be?

Him not being signed is what’s gonna prevent u guys from getting “top value” for him,
bc teams won’t wanna give up high end pieces for a guy who is a question mark for them going forward

Like most significant players in this situation, he will be traded with an extension in place, announced shortly after

There's plenty of example of this. Any team acquiring him will do it with the intention of him being more than a 1 year rental

Contract is just ONE factor

Take the time to read it.
It makes sense for the reasons for the line up proposed.

I was specifically responding to your point about it. Should have cut your quote