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Krug back to STL

Créé par: phillyjabroni
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 24 juin 2023
Publié: 24 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Similar to what happened with Brooks Orpik with Washington / Colorado, Philadelphia agrees to buyout Krug and he signs for the 1/3 of his remaining salary with St. Louis:

Torey Krug Buyout
Total Base Salary Owed: $29,500,000
Total Buyout Cost: $19,666,667
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Total Base Salary Unpaid: $9,833,333

New Krug deal with St. Louis: $9,833,333 / 4 years ($2,458,333 AAV)
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Alexandrov, Nikita
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Scandella, Marco
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
STL
  1. Hayes, Kevin (3 571 428 $ retained)
  2. Sanheim, Travis
2.
PHI
  1. Slepets, Kirill [Liste de réserve]
CAR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1583 500 000 $62 677 095 $1 187 500 $0 $20 822 905 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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816 667 $816 667 $
C
RFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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785 000 $785 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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24 juin 2023 à 22 h 21
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Genuine question: is this not illegal now? If not, go for it!
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Genuine question: is this not illegal now? If not, go for it!


I think they can get it approved. The issue is Krug not wanting to waive his NTC, not STL trying to circumvent the cap. I believe WSH also had the new deal with Orpik equivalent to whatever he would have made had he not been bought out, so the actual amount paid to Krug would be the same, just from two different sources
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Genuine question: is this not illegal now? If not, go for it!


Yeah it's illegal per the new CBA,
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24 juin 2023 à 22 h 26
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A team can't trade a player for buyout purposes, And then resign that player for a cheaper deal. It's called cap circumvention and it's illegal per the new CBA.
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 28
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A team can't trade a player for buyout purposes, And then resign that player for a cheaper deal. It's called cap circumbention and it's illegal per the new CBA.


What part of the CBA dictates that? I was having trouble finding that on here and they extended the current CBA which allowed it. I may be misunderstanding the logistics of it.
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 29
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A team can't trade a player for buyout purposes, And then resign that player for a cheaper deal. It's called cap circumvention and it's illegal per the new CBA.


i believe the rule is they arent eligible until the following season. If they bought out Krug now (the 22-23 season), STL would be eligible to sign him come July 1st, the start of the 23-24 season.
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 30
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What part of the CBA dictates that? I was having trouble finding that on here and they extended the current CBA which allowed it. I may be misunderstanding the logistics of it.


I'm not quite sure exactly where it's at, just know that they said that trades then buyouts and resigning players for cheap was no longer allowed.
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 31
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i believe the rule is they arent eligible until the following season. If they bought out Krug now (the 22-23 season), STL would be eligible to sign him come July 1st, the start of the 23-24 season.


Wouldn't that only apply to Philadelphia since they were the team that bought him out? For Orpik, the team that bought him out wasn't able to resign him, which would have been Colorado
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 35
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I'm not quite sure exactly where it's at, just know that they said that trades then buyouts and resigning players for cheap was no longer allowed.


I just don't know where that is since they extended the CBA back in 2020, which allowed for this process to happen. I don't see anything about them ratifying something new outside of the CBA however. Anyways, it's just an interesting thought experiment to make the deal work
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I just don't know where that is since they extended the CBA back in 2020, which allowed for this process to happen. I don't see anything about them ratifying something new outside of the CBA however. Anyways, it's just an interesting thought experiment to make the deal work


Briere will already be retaining on Kevin Hayes and possibly Deangelo. So i'm pretty sure the last thing he wants is 8 years of dead money on Torey Krug on the book.
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Briere will already be retaining on Kevin Hayes and possibly Deangelo. So i'm pretty sure the last thing he wants is 8 years of dead money on Torey Krug on the book.


For an extra 2 2nd round picks I'd do it. Hopefully someone like FLA or SEA is interested in Krug
24 juin 2023 à 22 h 42
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Flyers are rebuilding, they aren't buying out Krug EVEN if he changed his mind about accepting a trade there. It's not logical and won't happen.
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Wouldn't that only apply to Philadelphia since they were the team that bought him out? For Orpik, the team that bought him out wasn't able to resign him, which would have been Colorado


Once a retained salary transaction has occurred, there are various limitations, such as:

A team cannot reacquire a player whom they have retained salary from for a minimum of one year after the date of the transaction, or unless the player's contract expires or is terminated prior to the one-year date.
All teams involved in a retained salary transaction will have cap implications if the contract is bought out or terminated.
Teams who retain salary on a players contract, will have the full value of the cap hit act against the teams salary cap total, regardless of whether the player is reassigned to the minors by their current team.
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Once a retained salary transaction has occurred, there are various limitations, such as:

A team cannot reacquire a player whom they have retained salary from for a minimum of one year after the date of the transaction, or unless the player's contract expires or is terminated prior to the one-year date.
All teams involved in a retained salary transaction will have cap implications if the contract is bought out or terminated.
Teams who retain salary on a players contract, will have the full value of the cap hit act against the teams salary cap total, regardless of whether the player is reassigned to the minors by their current team.


Krug won't come with any retained salary. They would absorb his full contract and then buy him out.
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Krug won't come with any retained salary. They would absorb his full contract and then buy him out.


then i dont see anything in the CBA that prevents this from happening.
 
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