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Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 24 juin 2023
Publié: 24 juin 2023
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24 juin 2023 à 2 h 53
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Preds should probably do that
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24 juin 2023 à 2 h 57
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Ehhhh
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No… to all of This
24 juin 2023 à 3 h 4
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Yeah Minnesota instantly accepts I don't know why Detroit would do that
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24 juin 2023 à 3 h 5
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nvm
24 juin 2023 à 3 h 9
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Yeah Minnesota instantly accepts I don't know why Detroit would do that


Robby Fabbri has two years left and hasn't stayed healthy. Hurt his ACL again late in the season. And Marcus Foligno is a valuable player because he's extremely physical and can actually play. So the Wings get a guy they need and get rid of one with a bad injury history.
24 juin 2023 à 3 h 10
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Robby Fabbri has two years left and hasn't stayed healthy. Hurt his ACL again late in the season. And Marcus Foligno is a valuable player because he's extremely physical and can actually play. So the Wings get a guy they need and get rid of one with a bad injury history.


I mean I'll take it if you insist
24 juin 2023 à 3 h 11
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I mean I'll take it if you insist


It's a 2024 first and this team would make playoffs so it would be a late first
24 juin 2023 à 5 h 28
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It's a 2024 first and this team would make playoffs so it would be a late first


I think the pick would be in the 16-22 range. Minnesota should auto accept that.
24 juin 2023 à 8 h 19
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Anthony DeAngelo is s piece of human garbage.

Raymond alone is worth more then that pckg. He is better than Konecny and we dont need Hart and see above about DeAngelo
24 juin 2023 à 8 h 37
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Holy wow that's all super bad for Detroit
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24 juin 2023 à 10 h 15
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Holy wow that's all super bad for Detroit


Just wait, today it’ll be worse.
24 juin 2023 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Oasiswings
Anthony DeAngelo is s piece of human garbage.

Raymond alone is worth more then that pckg. He is better than Konecny and we dont need Hart and see above about DeAngelo


Lucas Raymond isn't close to being as good, he wouldn't get you Travis Konecny by himself
24 juin 2023 à 10 h 40
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Holy wow that's all super bad for Detroit


How?
24 juin 2023 à 10 h 49
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Well this is pretty bad. Wings don't do literally any of this.
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24 juin 2023 à 11 h 20
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How?


Our 2 top u25 scorers, top goalie prospect, number 2 d prospect, plus 2 picks for a locker room cancer, a nothing addition, and then 2 actual valuable pieces. Konecny is better than Raymond rn, but he's also older and Raymond is expected to be at least that good.

Raymond and Cossa are essentially untouchable as of now. I'd like to get Konecny, but not even considering it for that price.

Foligno isn't worth a 1st

Lindholm doesn't fit our core age, giving up 9oa to get him basically sits us in a mode where the roster you've made would have to be a cup contender now. And it just isn't.
24 juin 2023 à 11 h 41
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Our 2 top u25 scorers, top goalie prospect, number 2 d prospect, plus 2 picks for a locker room cancer, a nothing addition, and then 2 actual valuable pieces. Konecny is better than Raymond rn, but he's also older and Raymond is expected to be at least that good.

Raymond and Cossa are essentially untouchable as of now. I'd like to get Konecny, but not even considering it for that price.

Foligno isn't worth a 1st

Lindholm doesn't fit our core age, giving up 9oa to get him basically sits us in a mode where the roster you've made would have to be a cup contender now. And it just isn't.


I don't agree about Raymond or Cossa
24 juin 2023 à 11 h 49
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I don't agree about Raymond or Cossa


I mean obviously given that you traded both here. Look at the comments from literally everyone in this thread though. You seem to see less value in our guys than even fans of other teams do.
24 juin 2023 à 11 h 59
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Flyers accept but not sure what anyone expects to give up here it’s kinda ridiculous. You get a starting goalie that can excel on a better team, a PPG young winger on a cheap contract for 2 years, a scoring defenseman who had 40+ points in a brutal year, and then just an enforcer. What do you expect to pay for all of those guys, nothing? Do some of these wings fans want Danny to just give u his players for scraps?
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24 juin 2023 à 12 h 34
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Flyers accept but not sure what anyone expects to give up here it’s kinda ridiculous. You get a starting goalie that can excel on a better team, a PPG young winger on a cheap contract for 2 years, a scoring defenseman who had 40+ points in a brutal year, and then just an enforcer. What do you expect to pay for all of those guys, nothing? Do some of these wings fans want Danny to just give u his players for scraps?


Us wings fans just don’t want those players outside of Konecny. Deangelo is an absolute no due to character. Hart isn’t a guy I’d break the bank for considering we have Cossa coming and they’re a similar gamble, and I’d dare say Cossa has higher ceiling and is younger. And we’re trading the equivalent of at least 4 first round picks and 2 seconds in this deal. That’s like go get Draisaitl kind of package
24 juin 2023 à 12 h 48
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Us wings fans just don’t want those players outside of Konecny. Deangelo is an absolute no due to character. Hart isn’t a guy I’d break the bank for considering we have Cossa coming and they’re a similar gamble, and I’d dare say Cossa has higher ceiling and is younger. And we’re trading the equivalent of at least 4 first round picks and 2 seconds in this deal. That’s like go get Draisaitl kind of package


That’s fair if you don’t want the players but the actual value is definitely fair. And I hate to break it to you but that doesn’t come close to getting Drai lol
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24 juin 2023 à 12 h 50
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That’s fair if you don’t want the players but the actual value is definitely fair. And I hate to break it to you but that doesn’t come close to getting Drai lol


Drai isn’t available. But if you were to build up an offer, it would start looking something like this imo

It’s a much bigger package than what was traded for Eichel
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24 juin 2023 à 13 h 6
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Our 2 top u25 scorers, top goalie prospect, number 2 d prospect, plus 2 picks for a locker room cancer, a nothing addition, and then 2 actual valuable pieces. Konecny is better than Raymond rn, but he's also older and Raymond is expected to be at least that good.

Raymond and Cossa are essentially untouchable as of now. I'd like to get Konecny, but not even considering it for that price.

Foligno isn't worth a 1st

Lindholm doesn't fit our core age, giving up 9oa to get him basically sits us in a mode where the roster you've made would have to be a cup contender now. And it just isn't.


I would make that trade for Marcus Foligno because your also getting rid of Robby Fabbri who has ACL problems.
24 juin 2023 à 16 h 39
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Flyers accept but not sure what anyone expects to give up here it’s kinda ridiculous. You get a starting goalie that can excel on a better team, a PPG young winger on a cheap contract for 2 years, a scoring defenseman who had 40+ points in a brutal year, and then just an enforcer. What do you expect to pay for all of those guys, nothing? Do some of these wings fans want Danny to just give u his players for scraps?


I know and I'm a Red Wings fan
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25 juin 2023 à 4 h 30
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I know and I'm a Red Wings fan


If you’re actually a wings fan, you’re clueless with that trade and everything else proposed here
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25 juin 2023 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Flyers accept but not sure what anyone expects to give up here it’s kinda ridiculous. You get a starting goalie that can excel on a better team, a PPG young winger on a cheap contract for 2 years, a scoring defenseman who had 40+ points in a brutal year, and then just an enforcer. What do you expect to pay for all of those guys, nothing? Do some of these wings fans want Danny to just give u his players for scraps?


Red Wings fans have the right to be mad about these trades haha.

Try to think about these from the Red Wings perspective: We are still in a rebuild mode - Why are we trading away eight players that are under the age of 24? Trading away picks 9, 17, 41, 42. 43 + Next years 1st round pick? What are we getting in return? Four rentals who are all over the age of 27…Yzerman said we need to add good players to the u26 core.

Konecny would be a perfect fit in Detroit, but look at Raymond's stats vs Konecny's stats from their first two seasons…Makes no sense for Detroit to include Raymond in a Konecny trade…Raymond is 5y younger and he's still on a elc. Imagine if all these ufa's wants to leave as soon as their contract expires. Yikes.
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