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Créé par: Anus_McLeod
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2023
Publié: 18 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I don't like the trades for Sharangovich that involve a first. It's just a bit too much imo. I look at acquiring him as similar to what the cost was for Burakovsky. Problem is that Colorado doesn't have a 2nd.

Enter Granlund. Pens pay to dump him, and Avs get the asset they need to acquire Sharangovich. Granlund also fills a need, so it's even better. Problem solved!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
22 000 000 $
34 250 000 $
2875 000 $
12 050 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
PIT
2.
COL
  1. Sharangovich, Yegor [Droits de RFA]
NJD
  1. Beaucage, Alex
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
3.
COL
  1. Coghlan, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2024
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2025
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 272 500 $637 500 $57 500 $227 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
987 500 $987 500 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA

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18 juin 2023 à 9 h 5
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Isn't granlund a cap dump for pits.. 5 mill in space for a project on a contender isn't the best idea.

What do you think the chances are of the avs drafting musty at 27th, MacKenzie has him ranked at 26th
18 juin 2023 à 9 h 9
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Isn't granlund a cap dump for pits.. 5 mill in space for a project on a contender isn't the best idea.

What do you think the chances are of the avs drafting musty at 27th, MacKenzie has him ranked at 26th


He's a cap dump for the Pens, which is why they send to Colorado a 2nd to get rid of him. But I don't think he's nearly as bad as his performance in Pittsburgh and would fit well with the Avs. He wasn't bad the first part of last year it just didn't work out in Pittsburgh for some reason.

I can't really get a handle on the back half of the first round this year. Seems there is quite a bit of variation in rankings. I do think there will be a good player there for the taking though, which is why I very much want to keep that pick and figure out other ways to fill some holes. The Avs desperately need to start restocking the system imo.
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18 juin 2023 à 9 h 35
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Probably around market value for Sharangovich. Not a bad offer at all imo. Personally I’d want them to try and a get at least a 23 2nd, but tbf if they were to accept this deal they almost certainly would flip that pick to improve the active roster in some way.
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18 juin 2023 à 9 h 53
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He's a cap dump for the Pens, which is why they send to Colorado a 2nd to get rid of him. But I don't think he's nearly as bad as his performance in Pittsburgh and would fit well with the Avs. He wasn't bad the first part of last year it just didn't work out in Pittsburgh for some reason.

I can't really get a handle on the back half of the first round this year. Seems there is quite a bit of variation in rankings. I do think there will be a good player there for the taking though, which is why I very much want to keep that pick and figure out other ways to fill some holes. The Avs desperately need to start restocking the system imo.


He is only a cap dump because he played so poorly in Pit. I agree with your assessment that he would be better in the West (Col, Dal, and StL were the three that I thought of first).

That said, the Pens can buy him out relatively easily with little cap implications. They probably wouldn't trade a 2nd to get 1MM in cap relief this year and 2MM next year.
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18 juin 2023 à 9 h 55
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He is only a cap dump because he played so poorly in Pit. I agree with your assessment that he would be better in the West (Col, Dal, and StL were the three that I thought of first).

That said, the Pens can buy him out relatively easily with little cap implications. They probably wouldn't trade a 2nd to get 1MM in cap relief this year and 2MM next year.


They would have to pay him for two more years after that though too, so they would avoid any cap hit for 4 years. That's arguably worth a 2nd imo.
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18 juin 2023 à 9 h 59
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They would have to pay him for two more years after that though too, so they would avoid any cap hit for 4 years. That's arguably worth a 2nd imo.


Totally a fair argument. I think the cap going up and the Pens likely being non-competitive in 4 years, works against the trade though. But, you never know.
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18 juin 2023 à 10 h 4
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Totally a fair argument. I think the cap going up and the Pens likely being non-competitive in 4 years, works against the trade though. But, you never know.


I could be convinced into sending something back from Colorado. Maybe the 2025 4th?
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18 juin 2023 à 11 h 58
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I understand the thought process, but I think the pens should just keep their second - trade for Sharangovich themselves and either buy out granlund or figure out a different way to trade him.
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18 juin 2023 à 12 h 12
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Tbf most of the trades which have a first going for Yegor also have McLeod in there as well so it's not a straight up first for him, and due to how he's valued (and rightly so that he's highly valued imho even if slightly overvalued) in NJ, it's likely to take an overpay to acquire both him and Yegor. These aren't bad moves however as alternatives to that. I don't think the Pens will give up a second to dump Granlund though which is where it all kinda falls apart. Maybe, but it seems steep as he's still a useful player.

I guess at least there's no J. Toews in this iteration though so that's something! squinting with tongue out
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18 juin 2023 à 12 h 46
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Canes say why not? Thank you for the picks.
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18 juin 2023 à 14 h 21
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I could be convinced into sending something back from Colorado. Maybe the 2025 4th?


Maybe. I think Dubas might be willing to part with a 3rd or 4th. I don't know if he would do a 2nd...
Maybe deals a 2nd and a 3rd is returned?

But, I could be off. Maybe Dubas has a better plan?
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