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WHAT IF NYR never made trades with Winnipeg

Créé par: jpigeon2000
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2023
Publié: 17 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
OVERVIEW: reverted the 3 trades b/t NYR and WPG

NOTES
Rangers never sign Trocheck or Goodrow (NOTES: just traded them to AZ just to get them off the roster)
re-signed Vatrano
Rangers fail to find a trade partner for Hayes - buyout in 23-24
During the year paper transaction Cuylie and Schneider to bank cap space. Also fine with dropping one of khaira or aston-reese and go with 22 and call-up a FW when needed
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
44 250 000 $
22 100 000 $
2900 000 $
2975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
1775 000 $
12 000 000 $
1875 000 $
11 000 000 $
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WPG
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
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3.
NYR
WPG
  1. Laba, Noah [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
pick was part of the kevin hayes deal
4.
NYR
  1. Hayes, Kevin
Détails additionnels:
revert the 1st NYR & WPG trade
PHI
5.
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2383 500 000 $82 175 733 $610 892 $482 500 $1 324 267 $
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4 437 500 $4 437 500 $
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UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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DG
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DG
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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17 juin 2023 à 9 h 14
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The Rangers really overpaid for Copp.
17 juin 2023 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
The Rangers really overpaid for Copp.


Way too much for a player who never had more than 15 goals or 40 points in a season. He only had 9G 33A for DET this year - all that for 5.625 mil a year.
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17 juin 2023 à 16 h 0
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Way too much for a player who never had more than 15 goals or 40 points in a season. He only had 9G 33A for DET this year - all that for 5.625 mil a year.



NY is not the team that gave Copp 5.6 mil.
They got what they paid for and then some. NY went to ECF with Copp being a big piece.

Despise people spouting off ignorant comments with ignorant reasoning.
17 juin 2023 à 19 h 12
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NY is not the team that gave Copp 5.6 mil.
They got what they paid for and then some. NY went to ECF with Copp being a big piece.

Despise people spouting off ignorant comments with ignorant reasoning.


I am not denying he was a piece that helped NYR get to the ECF. I still feel it was an overpay. Frank Vatrano was acquired for a 4th rd pick (BTW - another big piece to the team in getting to the ECF). Compare his career stats to Copp (Vatrano:482 GP 211 pts .473 ppg Copp: 565 GP 244 pts .431ppg) - pretty similar. If talking the playoff run Copp had 14 pts (cost Barron 22 1st rd pick, 22 2nd rd pick and 5th rd pick) and Vatrano 13 pts (cost 22 4th rd pick). 1 extra playoff point for what was given up is an overpay.

I did not say NY gave him that money. The first portion of my reply provided reasoning on why I felt it was an overpay for Copp. The 2nd portion of my response was providing this years stats as further proof of an overpay. I am pretty sure DET was expecting more than 9 goals for the money they paid Copp.
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18 juin 2023 à 1 h 28
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Would have rather have had Copp( w/out the 5.6 hit) than Kane this past year. What a waste of time and resources to accommodate him. Now that was an overpay!!
18 juin 2023 à 4 h 39
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Would have rather have had Copp( w/out the 5.6 hit) than Kane this past year. What a waste of time and resources to accommodate him. Now that was an overpay!!


I hated the Kane move for plenty of reasons and I also considered that an overpay because everyone knew he was hurt - that 2nd rd pick could have been used for something else.

But what I hated more was how the Rangers mismanaged the roster the entire season (1st issue actually was from previous season).
1) They get Reaves in 21-22 and immediately sign him to that 1.75mil extension - that money cost them a chance to re-sign Motte at the end of the 22 season (then they have to use another pick to get him again this past season).
2) All season they should have been performing paper transactions with Schneider to gain cap space.
3) They held onto Kravtsov too long and picked up Motte too early (and taking on more salary in the process).
4) When Lindgren got hurt, he should have went on LTIR (missed 17 of the last 23 games - really only played the last 5 games of the season which were meaningless). That 3 mil (Lindgren's salary) could have been used to get a different forward like Max Domi or split the money across a few forwards (i.e. Bjudstad and Bonino for example).

Instead, they decided it was better to play short-handed to barely get enough space to get Kane. I honestly believe if they would have just put Lindgren on LITR and not had to play multiple games at end of the year with only 16 skaters (couple of games they had 10 forwards and 4 D) they would have gotten out of the 1st round - they were too tired.
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