Certainly don't want pay anything to get Johnsson even at a retained 5.m. Find better UFAs at 5m and not give up anything
Don't think the value is there for the Flames. Two good upcoming UFAs, for one good upcoming UFA and not much else. Retiring as a Flame, an awful reason to Flames to trade for Giordamp..

Johansen is washed especially with that contract, paid way too much to get him imo

Johansen would be great for us. Would be way better than Bunting 5.25x4 like your post...

The exact value doesn't matter for the Flames trade. Like I said. They should have interest in a deal with the main pieces. And Gio doesn't add any value to the deal it was just a farewell to Gio.

Not many options to bring in... ROR can fit cap wise in this roster even with Johansen with minor adjustments. But that is likely a 3-4 year term.

How is Johansen washed? This is a ridiculous take.

How is that a ridiculous take; over the last 4 years the dude is 0.236 gpg & 0.596 ppg &dash 20. If we consider only 5x5 he’s 0.148 gpg & 0.396 ppg. Do they look like numbers of a top player in his prime? Come on

You have made a worse team. It's older, way slower and still tight against the cap.

Rather pay any quality UFA 5m rather than paying 5m for 45 point centre Johansson. , and giving up Minten and a first.
Sorry you're butt hurt, but it's a awful trade to acquire a third line centre.

Check mate, although I am pretty sure this guy is a troll. He only makes bad trades and then spends time telling leaf fans how stupid that are.

PPG and +/-? These are the tools you use to evaluate players?

He's 1.6 p/60 5v5 that's on the low end of his career average, but still in line with many of his seasons over the last 8 years. Nashville deploys their lines differently. He will play more minutes here, even in a 2nd line role, where he will face easier competition and be surrounded by really good players... Not Granlund and Niederreiter

He's can use his size, can play LW or C, great at faceoffs, consistently a positive event player at 5v5. Can be deployed balanced in either zone. Good hands, good on PP. Decent underlying numbers.

I don’t dig too far into the numbers when a guy making $8M per scores 12 goals and is well below 0.5 points per game at 5v5. Add in that he’s slow and his numbers are getting worse every year. On the Leafs he wouldn’t sniff PP1 so it’s kind of like paying Alex Kerfoot $8M ($5M with retention) minus the speed and pk. Knock yourself out but I have no interest in johansen , terrible fit for Leafs

Most of the trades I make on here are to promote discussion, offer different ideas, and just have fun making rosters. I actually post rosters instead of clicking on threads offering nothing of value and crying about who needs to add a 3rd rd pick. I'm gonna defend my opinions clearly, but you haven't offered valuable discussion in any post you've been in, never mind being able to fully read a post before crying about it.

Clearly you're more interested in winning meaningless Armchair GM trades than being a fan of hockey.

You're entitled to your opinion but I think it's different and an interesting idea. Maybe try posting a roster so we can have a discussion about some of your ideas.

Rip is known to do that. Will scold you for bad takes and trades but never posts anything himself. Cares too much about winning random ACGM arguments.

Now on to your trade:

Ryjo is still a very effective middle 6C. The problem that comes with him is how overpaid he is. He's a great morale guy and great with mentoring younger players. If there is retention (probably closer to 50%), 4m for him at 2 years would be fine to have as your 2C. He's has crappy linemates here on Nashville as well, and his QoT has been poor, kinda makes him look worse than he is.

Now with your payment, I think you did overpay. Ryjo, at half retention, would probably only net Nashville closer to a 2nd+. (If Granlund and Nino can get us a 2nd, so can Ryjo). Which I would be fine with. Nashville needs to clear spots for our younger players.

I will accept that it is an overpayment, with honor. I do try to overcompensate for my own bias being a Leafs fan. As well as floating ideas to NSH fans to see what a trade would looks like. I agree Johansen is still effective and there's no doubt that there has to be money eaten by Nashville for him to provide value.

My thought process here would be the late 1st for Johansen, and something around a 2nd round pick for the retention. I like Minten and he had a good D+1 year, a year removed from being an early-ish 2nd round pick. As I understand it NSH has a history of not wanting to retain anything on contracts.

If the cost is lower, then I see that as a win-win. I think it's an interesting idea and a bit different than some of the usual stuff on here.

Yup a troll