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Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2023
Publié: 14 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Its about playing the kids and Adding the right vets who are still in their prime in 2-3 seasons when the blue chips hit their stride.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
3975 000 $
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32 675 000 $
32 975 000 $
32 475 000 $
33 275 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
66 125 000 $
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PHI
  1. Bemström, Emil
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (1 142 857 $ retained)
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PHI
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
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PHI
  1. Poulin, Samuel
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
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5.
NYR
  1. Sandström, Felix
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $80 366 857 $1 187 500 $0 $3 133 143 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
AG, AD
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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2 975 000 $2 975 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 475 000 $2 475 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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785 000 $785 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 675 000 $2 675 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Équipe de réserve
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845 833 $845 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
RFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance37 500 $$38K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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847 500 $847 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 2
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903 333 $903 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG
RFA - 3
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859 167 $859 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
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14 juin 2023 à 7 h 24
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If Lafrenière has that low value to PHI, I would rather keep Laffy if I was Drury. That trade just makes no sense 😕
14 juin 2023 à 7 h 31
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Leafs decline
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14 juin 2023 à 7 h 42
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Leafs decline


Big time, these are getting worse and worse. Soon it'll be a resigned Matthews for Loughton
14 juin 2023 à 7 h 42
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If Lafrenière has that low value to PHI, I would rather keep Laffy if I was Drury. That trade just makes no sense 😕


Maybe, it clears almost 7mil in cap space for NYR as they dump Goodrow for a 4th, so its a backup goalie, a 1st and 2nd for Laf, (Qualifying offers/Real production/etc... aside), which I thought was respectable.
14 juin 2023 à 7 h 46
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Leafs decline


Maybe, but Laughton is probably getting better than a late 1st, and dumping Murray is probably worth more than a 3rd two drafts away.

I looked at Villenueve (who is just Leafs 2nd best RD prospect) as a fairly weak price of moving Murray, (and PHI who is the seller wants/needs RD), so its Minten and the late in the round 1st for Laughton, which I dont think is atronomical, given the demand for Laughton and based on PHI getting overpaid/paid what THEY want.
14 juin 2023 à 7 h 49
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Maybe, it clears almost 7mil in cap space for NYR as they dump Goodrow for a 4th, so its a backup goalie, a 1st and 2nd for Laf, (Qualifying offers/Real production/etc... aside), which I thought was respectable.


So goodrow is a cap dump but Laughton is worth Minten and a 1st? Checks out
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14 juin 2023 à 7 h 56
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Maybe, but Laughton is probably getting better than a late 1st, and dumping Murray is probably worth more than a 3rd two drafts away.

I looked at Villenueve (who is just Leafs 2nd best RD prospect) as a fairly weak price of moving Murray, (and PHI who is the seller wants/needs RD), so its Minten and the late in the round 1st for Laughton, which I dont think is atronomical, given the demand for Laughton and based on PHI getting overpaid/paid what THEY want.


Never say never in this league - there have been some questionable trades by supposedly good gms like Chiarot, Jeannot, etc - but if Tre trades that haul for Laughton (a career bottom 6er) then I will have truly seen it all. Gonna say no chance
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14 juin 2023 à 7 h 58
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So goodrow is a cap dump but Laughton is worth Minten and a 1st? Checks out


To Cap strapped, in their window now NYR, based on his age and production, yes Goodrow for a 4th is a fairly good deal for NYR. Laughton, who doesn;t need to be moved coming off a second career production number on a horrendous offensive club, who is cheaper and younger? Two different situations for two slightly similar players.

(Not to say, if hes willing to waive, that Goodrow doesn;t get a better return elsewhere, but based on NYR cap and rfa/ufa re-signings, goodrow is probably a dump for them in that situation).

If you dont think Laughton is worth a 1st and more, thats fine, it goes against rumours, but the leafs for 1 month of the much older Nick Foligno paid a 1st, 3rd and 4th.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 0
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Never say never in this league - there have been some questionable trades by supposedly good gms like Chiarot, Jeannot, etc - but if Tre trades that haul for Laughton (a career bottom 6er) then I will have truly seen it all. Gonna say no chance


I dont disagree, but the same case could be used for the less physical but also bottom 6 forward Jarnkrot, who spent a great deal of time in the Leafs top 6 this year.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 3
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Quoting: Hammerwise
I dont disagree, but the same case could be used for the less physical but also bottom 6 forward Jarnkrot, who spent a great deal of time in the Leafs top 6 this year.


Exactly! We signed Jarnkrok as a FA and he played really well, often the case when you have legit superstars in place. We’ll just sign a FA to play 3C (or bring back Kampf) if the cost to acquire Laughton is a 1st+Minten 🤯. I wouldn’t pay either … so no chance, no chance on both. The world has gone mad
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14 juin 2023 à 8 h 12
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Maybe, it clears almost 7mil in cap space for NYR as they dump Goodrow for a 4th, so its a backup goalie, a 1st and 2nd for Laf, (Qualifying offers/Real production/etc... aside), which I thought was respectable.


Yeah they just buyout Goodrow. Run it through buyout calculator and you'll it isn't the end of the world. What you offer is way worse
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 14
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Yeah they just buyout Goodrow. Run it through buyout calculator and you'll it isn't the end of the world. What you offer is way worse


Maybe, but he has FOUR years at 3.6mil left, they'd be insane to buy that out, and still have a relative disappointment in Laf that they'd be forced to overpay to keep him away from Qualifying offers while getting some draft capitol back and retaining enough cap space to do another Tarasenko/Kane.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 15
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Yeah they just buyout Goodrow. Run it through buyout calculator and you'll it isn't the end of the world. What you offer is way worse


Barclay Goodrow buyout spans 8 years, has a cost of $10,066,667 and savings of $5,033,333. Goodrow is 30 years of age at the time of the buyout; therefore, the buyout ratio is 2/3. With $15,100,000 in salary remaining, the cost is $10,066,667, and the savings are $5,033,333. Buyouts span twice the length of the remaining years and because there are 4 years remaining in the contract, the buyout length is 8 years.

Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON CAP HIT (
2023-24 -$200,000
2024-25 -$100,000
2025-26 $1,150,000
2026-27 $3,650,000
2027-28 $1,258,333
2028-29 $1,258,333
2029-30 $1,258,333
2030-31 $1,258,333
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 17
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Barclay Goodrow buyout spans 8 years, has a cost of $10,066,667 and savings of $5,033,333. Goodrow is 30 years of age at the time of the buyout; therefore, the buyout ratio is 2/3. With $15,100,000 in salary remaining, the cost is $10,066,667, and the savings are $5,033,333. Buyouts span twice the length of the remaining years and because there are 4 years remaining in the contract, the buyout length is 8 years. The buyout cap hit is displayed in the Cap Hit Calculations table below.

Cost Calculations
BUYOUT DATE BASE SALARY REMAINING S.BONUS REMAINING YEARS REMAINING BUYOUT LENGTH AGE BUYOUT RATIO TOTAL COST TOTAL SAVINGS ANNUAL COST
Jun. 15, 2023 $15,100,000 $1,250,000 4 8 30 2/3 $10,066,667 $5,033,333 $1,258,333
Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Logo of the New York RangersNYR)
2023-24 $5,100,000 $3,641,667 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 $3,841,667 -$200,000
2024-25 $5,000,000 $3,641,667 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 $3,741,667 -$100,000
2025-26 $3,750,000 $3,641,667 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 $2,491,667 $1,150,000
2026-27 $1,250,000 $3,641,667 $1,250,000 $1,258,333 $2,508,333 -$8,333 $3,650,000
2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 -$1,258,333 $1,258,333
2028-29 $0 $0 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 -$1,258,333 $1,258,333
2029-30 $0 $0 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 -$1,258,333 $1,258,333
2030-31 $0 $0 $0 $1,258,333 $1,258,333 -$1,258,333 $1,258,333
TOTAL $15,100,000 $14,566,668 $1,250,000 $10,066,667 $11,316,667 $5,033,333 $9,533,332


Yes as you can clearly see he will tax the team once Panarin is off the books. Small price to pay given what you offered/trying to convince me off 😄👍
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 18
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You're gonna have to make it the Flyers' 1st for the Rangers to be interested. Rangers aren't shopping Laf so you need to give them a good reason to trade him.

A top 16 first + a 3rd rounder is the bare minimum to get them interested since that's what Dach's haul was. Difference here is that Rangers don't want to trade Laf so you're either gonna have to offer sheet him or overpay for him.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 21
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You're gonna have to make it the Flyers' 1st for the Rangers to be interested. Rangers aren't shopping Laf so you need to give them a good reason to trade him.


I dont think based on his career so far that you get a 1st that high in a draft so deep, especially when a qualifying offer is a much cheaper option. Theyre not shopping him, but they need cap space somewhere and he hasn't justified what he'll likely get as an RFA to avoid the QO.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 25
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I dont think based on his career so far that you get a 1st that high in a draft so deep, especially when a qualifying offer is a much cheaper option. Theyre not shopping him, but they need cap space somewhere and he hasn't justified what he'll likely get as an RFA to avoid the QO.


A top 16 first + a 3rd rounder is the bare minimum to get them interested since that's what Dach's haul was, and at this point in his career Laf is statistically better than Dach was when he got traded. Difference here is that Rangers don't want to trade Laf so you're either gonna have to offer sheet him or overpay for him. Rangers cap is tight but not nearly tight enough that they're gonna be forced to trade Laf. They're not just gonna let the former 1OA go for scraps.
14 juin 2023 à 8 h 42
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The flyers aren’t taking Murray and that deal wouldn’t be enough to take Murray and trade Laughton anyway Leafs fans just think all of their players are amazing lol. This trade is mid at best for the flyers. Rangers don’t do it either
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14 juin 2023 à 9 h 48
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Rangers can't say no thanks fast enough.
14 juin 2023 à 9 h 57
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Maybe, but he has FOUR years at 3.6mil left, they'd be insane to buy that out, and still have a relative disappointment in Laf that they'd be forced to overpay to keep him away from Qualifying offers while getting some draft capitol back and retaining enough cap space to do another Tarasenko/Kane.


If he’s such a disappointment, then why trade for Laffy? Lol

Rangers are trying to win now and that trade makes them take a step back in progress
14 juin 2023 à 10 h 11
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To Cap strapped, in their window now NYR, based on his age and production, yes Goodrow for a 4th is a fairly good deal for NYR. Laughton, who doesn;t need to be moved coming off a second career production number on a horrendous offensive club, who is cheaper and younger? Two different situations for two slightly similar players.

(Not to say, if hes willing to waive, that Goodrow doesn;t get a better return elsewhere, but based on NYR cap and rfa/ufa re-signings, goodrow is probably a dump for them in that situation).

If you dont think Laughton is worth a 1st and more, thats fine, it goes against rumours, but the leafs for 1 month of the much older Nick Foligno paid a 1st, 3rd and 4th.


Foligno was a former 30 goal scorer. Loughton's best season was 40 points when he was getting 18+ minutes a night. The reason the team is offence starved is because the likes of Loughton got the bigger minutes. He's a 3/4th liner. Keep him, he's not in anyway worth what the speculation says. Also speculation is not reporting it's making stuff up to drive clicks.
 
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