Value for Savard is good but since he's a veteran helping the kids as well as French speaking I'm not sure management would let him go

No trades, no cup. No cup with the trades either…

I think it's Leafs or Blues for ROR.

Habs should take that

Edvinsson + Savard seems like an amazing pair on paper... I agree it's a bit of a stretch to say this even puts them into the playoff picture, but this (like most of my posts) was me coming up with a team name first, then trying to make a team that fits the name

I'm not a savard guy, I don't see the value for a 2nd there

He's played top line minutes in Columbus and Montreal, so I think he has decent value. I had a hard time finding any AGM posts trading him though, so it was difficult to determine a fair value. Based on the response from Montreal fans, this is an overpay, so you're probably right about the 2nd

I think they only do it if they need an extra pick to mover up higher in the 1st

We are thin on the right side, Mailloux needs a year in Laval

I agree

I wouldn’t mind Savard honestly but not in this deal.

I can always appreciate a good name. 👍🏽

Wings are not paying more for DeBrincat than what Ottawa did.

This is less than Ottawa's trade. Ottawa traded 7th OA pick + 39 OA + 2024 3rd. This trade is 17 OA + 41 OA + 73 OA which would be rejected if you offered this package for 7 OA by itself (based on draft pick value charts). I don't think Zadina makes up the difference either.

I understand where the picks are. So you understand that this years draft is significantly deeper than last years weaker class?

Also, Ottawa trades for a 41 goal scorer with a 6.4M cap hit. They are trading away a 27 goal scorer with a 8-9M cap hit. Tell me which holds more value.

So are you saying Detroit is guaranteed to get a better prospect at 17 OA than Marco Kasper (who they took at 8 OA last year)? I think there's a bit more nuance to a "deep/weak" draft class, for example I've heard this year is a "weak" draft for defensemen, but last year had 4 D go in the top 10. So does that mean last year's 7 OA more valuable if your team needs defensemen?

Don't get me wrong, I can see how each draft has a unique value for draft picks, but I'm just not convinced that this year's 17 OA is more valuable than last year's 7 OA. I'm curious which prospects projected around 17 you're super high on though, because it seems like you're pretty confident 17 OA this year is more valuable than last year's 7 OA. BTW Ottawa's trade for DeBrincat was universally regarded as a steal, so even if we assume this package is worth more than what Ottawa paid for him, it's still not an overpay.


Maybe I'm missing something here, he's still a 2x 41 goal scorer... Are you saying he's not capable of that production anymore because he didn't put up 40+ playing for the powerhouse that is Ottawa? Even if we assume that his production already peaked, 27 goals puts him in 2nd for most goals on the Wings last season, only Larkin had more with 32, so the $8-9M AAV seems about right. The $6.4M cap hit would be great if it lasted longer than the 1 season Ottawa had him.

So I think it's pretty obvious a 25 year old top line winger with a 7 or 8 year contract (with a team he wants to play for) is much more valuable than the one year Ottawa got at a ~$2M lower AAV.

What I’m saying is, DeBrincat’s value is less than it was 12 months ago. He’ll get an 8M+ AAV and will probably live up to it. But the value of trade for a young guy coming off of 40 goals and a low cap plus RFA rights is more than Cat’s current value. It isn’t a ton more, but it’s more.

As far as the drafts go, I’m not saying 17 this year is the same as 7 last year. But I am saying that it’s a lot closer than 10 spots difference. 17 this year would be close to around 10 last year.

So those factors, plus the fact that Ottawa has little to no leverage, lessens Cat’s trade value. Plus there’s the argument (that i don’t subscribe to) that Cat isn’t a 40 goal scorer without being on Kane’s line.