If Nashville is acquiring Cat, why would we move a top goalie in the process?

If Cat comes here, it won't be Saros coming back.

Philly has turned down a late 1st's for Laughton, so this isn't even close for him

Yes lol you would literally have to add a 1st to this deal

Any GM paying more than this is for Laughton is a freaking IDIOT

Joseph might actually be better than Laughton.

I really doubt Laughton's advanced stats look better than this :




Joseph is one of the best skaters in the league (and a much better skater than Laughton) and an ELITE PKer. Plus he produces almost as much as Laughton

Last 2 years (comfortably Laughton's best offensive seasons) :

Laughton : 0.50 PPG, Joseph 0.45 PPG (in Ottawa)

I wouldn;t make this stupid trade and piss away 2 picks for absolutely no reason

Look above.

Maybe an idiot would make this move but IF Dorion makes the proposed trade here, he will just cement himself (even more) as the most stupid GM I have seen (after Milbury of course)

I don’t care about ur opinion I only care about the facts lol. Fact is GMs have offered it.

And you're not a GM in the NHL. You can have your opinion, but if they're literally declining first round picks for him, then the trade you proposed is awful lol

Also, now I'm just going to make you look dumb. Your comparison between Joseph and Laughton is hilarious. You claim the last two seasons were his best, when in 19-20 he has a 0.55 ppg and two season ago in your comparison had 0.44 so you're just making things up.

Secondly, you want to talk about Josephs last two years where 2 season ago he played 11 games, thats a horrible sample size.

If you're going to make posts like this and arguments stop speaking about things that only fit your narrative.

Yes and they most likely did at the last deadline when it's known that GMs are ready to overpay to upgrade their rosters for the playoffs. I can't believe that a GM would be stupid enough (even Pierre Dorion) to offer it NOW that the market has gone cold and that bargains will be on the table (like last off-season)

Can you provide a credible SOURCE that says that the offers have been RECENT (AFTER the deadline)?

I don't know how old you guys are but if you believe everything you see in the medias, your life experience must be pretty limited. That and the context or timing is often purposedly left off the mark. GMs also often use negotiating through medias but you're probably very naïve so I don't expect you to be aware of that

See my post above this one. Let's see if you can find a source with context and timeline

And what trade have I proposed exactly? I mean you're trying to argue with me but you can't even read properly?



Ok so that was supposed to make me look "dumb"? lol

Hard to believe you were serious here but it was probably the weakest attempt I have ever seen. The only person you managed to make look stupid is yourself on top of being pretty pathetic by attempting to do it

OK so Laughton also had a good PPG season in 2019-20 but just 49 games so lower raw numbers. And 4 years ago is not very relevant anymore... I was grouping the last 2 seasons together when saying that it was his best output but ok, let's nitpick on that if you want. My bad, I was extremely DUMB here



I only took Joseph numbers in Ottawa (and it was SPECIFIED in the post) because he had more opportunity than on the top NHL contender but ok, let's include TB as well. It brings down his numbers to 0.38 PPG for the last 2 seasons. Incredible, Laughton produces a whooping 9.84 more points per 82 games while playing 3:18 more per game (including more PP minutes). Again so duuuuumb


All that being said, not much change in what I said (which is absolutely hilarious considering your stupid attempt) :

Joseph might actually be better OVERALL than Laughton. He is one of the best skaters in the league (much better than Laughton) and an ELITE PKer. Plus he produces almost as much as Laughton (9-10 pts less per 82 games but in less minutes and barely any PP time)

Last 2 years (one was Laughton's best offensive season in career) :

Laughton : 0.50 PPG, Joseph 0.38 PPG

I wouldn't make this stupid trade and piss away 2 picks for absolutely no reason. Ottawa doesn't need more offense, they need more good defensive forwards. You'd have to be very clueless to spend a 1st on Scott Laughton when you can spend that on much better players

LMAO bro do you even read what's currently going on before you post or do you just listen to Ottawa oriented people to once again fit your narrative. Elliotte Friedman reports it, probably one of the most trusted sources in the industry that late 1sts have been offered and declined.

Also, hate to break it to you, but you can't say stuff like "comfortably" when you aren't even correct, thats what makes you look dumb. Mistakes can be made, but if you're going to be throwing out statements like that and sound like you know what you're talking about, you should atleast be correct. Now four years ago isn't relevant. Once again everything is just to fit your current narrative, its honestly laughable. And finally, I would LOVE to know on what earth, stats from four years ago all of the sudden don't matter??

Also, one more time because apparently you didnt understand when TheBigFlyera told you, you're a nobody, your opinion on the market means literally nothing when actual GMs are making offers.

ok first I am not your "bro", I don't give a crap about brick heads who try to "make people look dumb". You do you but I don't want any association with your pathetic type.

And what about doubling down on the irony? This time you accuse me of not reading after you said "the trade you proposed is awful lol" when I didn't make the proposal. Golden lol

Regarding the source, effectively I don't spend time scanning the internet for all these rumors and whatnot. That is WHY I have asked you to provide a link, a source where it says that a 1st round pick has been offered NOW in the off-season... There's a huge difference between the deadline market and the off-season market, particularly for middle-six forwards.

Yet, you and your buddy still haven't provided anything.



I hate to break it to you, but you decided to call someone DUMB because he used an inexact word by scooping over a 49 games season, which makes you the major tool that you are. I usually use hockey reference to see PPGs directly but this time I didn't so by looking at raw numbers I didn't realize he had a similar PPG in 2019-20, like his 2nd best season. BIG DEAL. Nitpicking

Yes I was not correct on that but there's no narrative or anything. I am OBVIOUSLY not going to use 4 seasons ago to evaluate Joseph and Laughton NOW. You'd have to be dumb to do that but wait... did you just asked that question? I swear to God that I didn't even read it before I typed this

I know your type... we see them once in a while on the internet, a gigantic waste of bandwidth but at the same time way too hilarious to pass up on the occasion. That's the only thing laughable here. But it's ok, stay the way you are, we love you this way.



Sigh but ok whatever, it's not about my opinion, I don't even care about my own opinion. I care about facts.

- I provided a card for Joseph (that reflects his advanced stats)
- I stated that Joseph is a top skater. Just watching him play, it becomes factual
- elite PKer (again, advanced stats makes it factual)
- provided both players PPG of the last 2 seasons, Joseph only in Ottawa because, well, it's more relevant. I was wrong on calling Laughton best seasons, because hey, he had a similar PPG to his 2nd best season in 2019-20, in a 49 games season. That made me look really dumb lmao
- I have stated that it's known that GMs are ready to overpay to upgrade their rosters for the playoffs, which I consider factual because it happens every deadline.
- I have provided more numbers and specifically that Laughton produces only 9-10 more points per 82 games while playing 3:18 more per game (including more PP minutes)

My point is simple, I am not going to spend assets for a little bit more offense but less defense when my team needs is more in 2-way forwards

I have also asked to provide a credible SOURCE that says that the offers have been RECENT (AFTER the deadline), which would make your whole argumentation a little bit more credible, not factual but at least more credible. Still waiting

You are so upset lmaoooo. And ill call you what I want, thanks.

All I'm saying is you look dumb when you use the word comfortably and you're still wrong lol. When you say stuff like that, that implies you've done your research and atleast had the decency to double check.

I guess you can argue that 4 season ago isn't as relevant but why are we acting like it didnt exist, and im the dumb one apparently.

You just sound so dumb, you say your provide facts but your second point is his elite speed, then your proof is because you watch him play LMAO

And if you could read I just told you Friedmann reported it during the SCF on HNIC. I don't know why I have to tell you this again but your opinion is not credible. What you think of Joseph, Laughton, the weather, Canadian politics, it DOESNT matter, get that through your head. No one cares if you'd make the trade or not trust me.

Don't reply, please I beg, I'm done with you and your incompetence.

I'm not upset lol, I'm literally having a blast laughing at your pathetic stuff. And I don't care if you tell me to not reply YOU are the one who quoted me to call me dumb. You opened the door for me to destroy your stupid character. I would never insult anyone if they don't do it themselves first.

I already acknowledged my mistake, I overlooked that his PPG in 19-20 was equal to his 2nd best season... Very little nitpicking mathematic mistake as I admittedly spent 15 seconds on his stats. The fact that you find this dumb tells us pretty much all we need to know. But your whole premise is the only dumb thing here.

And of course 4 seasons ago is not very relevant to analyze current players VALUE. Anyone who played competitive hockey/sports know that a lot can happen in 4 years. Do you really think GMs are like "yeah I know the last 3 years haven't been great but 4 years ago he was ripping it up!" lol come on



Are you saying that facts are not made through observation in science? And you say "You just sound so dumb"? You are frankly hilarious. I am starting to feel pity actually.



Look how dense you are once again. Did you provide a link? All you can do is insult then yap.

So since you are pretty much useless, I just scanned 2 articles with Friedman and Laughton, didn't see anything about a 1st round pick being offered AFTER the trade deadline... Same with the 32 seconds segment I just listened to.

Of course my opinion doesn't matter because I am not an active participant in these transactions. Same goes for anybody on all these forums duh. But as long as you can't show me that a 1st was offered AFTER the deadline, it stays conjecture.