i still think it takes a middle 6 prospect / young player under 26 to get it done. Kubalik walks after next year what next? And i dont think Kubalik is a Dorion player

So it'd likely be a Berggren for Kubalik swap. I keep seeing Zadina and a 1st + 2nd...Wings fans way overestimating his value.

Berggren and 17 probably gets it done. Maybe another small piece

I think you're right. Zadina is not what Ottawa would be after. I think Berggren does get it done. Honestly, as far as Detroit proposals go this one was pretty close to fair for the Sens I think.

You’re getting close to what it would take for Murray (cap dump) but still too high a price imo. Switch picks to 24 and maybe but even then 🤨…we can easily buy him out. Cap hit this year is minimal and Cap is going up big time in 24-25 so easier (not ideal admittedly) to absorb the one time $2M hit

Pass on both trades.

you are OUT OF YOUR MIND if you think you're getting both those pieces for Debrincat hahahahahaha. you have ZERO leverage on a guy who doesn't want to be on your team anymore. and you think you're getting MORE value in return than what you paid a year ago? turn your brain on

That’s not more but okay and he’s signing an extension

Ottawa is in the same situation with Cat that Winnipeg is in with PLD. That's why I don't think either player ends in Detroit or Montreal at least this season