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Créé par: Boush
Équipe: 2023-24 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2023
Publié: 9 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The puns are getting difficult.

With Lumbus's recent moves, it might be more appealing for Kuzy to agree to a trade there with a revamped defense and centering Gaudreau and Laine. The Blue Jackets certainly seem to be in a buying and competing mood.
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny (2 300 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
1st for Kuzy, 3rd for the retention
2.
ARI
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
1st and 3rd for Schmaltz, 3rd for Mantha dump
3.
COL
  1. Fehérváry, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
4.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Easier doing it this way than reverting the other trades, plus shows what I'm changing from my initial thought process based on others' feedback.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2284 500 000 $81 014 167 $20 000 $82 500 $3 485 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
863 333 $863 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
762 500 $762 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3

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9 juin 2023 à 13 h 59
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That’s a trade Columbus probably considers, imo I’d like to see some protection on the pick, but with the recent moves I’m guessing jarmo would at least consider the trade.
9 juin 2023 à 14 h 2
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Quoting: Ajp_18
That’s a trade Columbus probably considers, imo I’d like to see some protection on the pick, but with the recent moves I’m guessing jarmo would at least consider the trade.


If the first is top 10 protected I think they definitely consider. Maybe throw in roslovic instead of the third
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9 juin 2023 à 14 h 14
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Quoting: SK101
If the first is top 10 protected I think they definitely consider. Maybe throw in roslovic instead of the third


I think the Caps would be OK with the protection but would prefer the pick over Roslovic (unless Backstrom retires, in which case I think that'd be a great swap).
9 juin 2023 à 14 h 22
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CBJ trade is fine, though $2.3M is a lot of retention, so Caps might want a 2nd instead of a 3rd.

ARI trade is fine I guess.

COL trade is bad. At most it would be Fehervary straight up for Girard, no addition picks. Marty is younger and cheaper, that makes up for Girard's better offense.

VAN is fine.
9 juin 2023 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
CBJ trade is fine, though $2.3M is a lot of retention, so Caps might want a 2nd instead of a 3rd.

ARI trade is fine I guess.

COL trade is bad. At most it would be Fehervary straight up for Girard, no addition picks. Marty is younger and cheaper, that makes up for Girard's better offense.

VAN is fine.


If COL would make that trade straight up without the picks, holy schnikes would I jump on that. But I think you're overvaluing Marty and undervaluing Girard. Girard clocks in as an elite #2D in terms of points and ice time, while being one of the least penalized defensemen over the last five seasons. He's only 17 months older than Fehervary, so I don't think the age is a detriment - if anything, you're trading for a guy playing in his prime on an undervalued contract with significant term.
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9 juin 2023 à 14 h 37
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If COL would make that trade straight up without the picks, holy schnikes would I jump on that. But I think you're overvaluing Marty and undervaluing Girard. Girard clocks in as an elite #2D in terms of points and ice time, while being one of the least penalized defensemen over the last five seasons. He's only 17 months older than Fehervary, so I don't think the age is a detriment - if anything, you're trading for a guy playing in his prime on an undervalued contract with significant term.


Guess it depends who values what more. Marty is a high end shut down guy with no offense, while Girard is high end offense guy with defense game lol
9 juin 2023 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: Boush
I think the Caps would be OK with the protection but would prefer the pick over Roslovic (unless Backstrom retires, in which case I think that'd be a great swap).


Do Roslovic instead of the third and don't acquire Garland and we're good imo.

Also would rather just hold onto Fehervary since he's cheaper. Gives us more cap flexibility.
9 juin 2023 à 14 h 51
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Avs say no thanks at this time. I think they will move Manson before Girard and that is only if it's holding up a reasonable Toews extention.
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9 juin 2023 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: brady_t12
Do Roslovic instead of the third and don't acquire Garland and we're good imo.

Also would rather just hold onto Fehervary since he's cheaper. Gives us more cap flexibility.


That's actually a great point re: Roslovic vs. Garland. Absolutely the right call - gonna make that change based on your and others' suggestions.

I'm frankly just not a believer in Fehervary. Puts me at odds with a lot of folks, but to my core I believe the Caps are best served moving him out ASAP for a proven guy, and if Girard is available I can't think of a better grab to make for the contract value.
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9 juin 2023 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: Boush
That's actually a great point re: Roslovic vs. Garland. Absolutely the right call - gonna make that change based on your and others' suggestions.

I'm frankly just not a believer in Fehervary. Puts me at odds with a lot of folks, but to my core I believe the Caps are best served moving him out ASAP for a proven guy, and if Girard is available I can't think of a better grab to make for the contract value.


Makes sense. I actually just posted an ACGM based off of what you did here and my suggestions if you wanna take a look at that.

I love Fehervary, he's one of my favorite players, so I'm very biased and don't wanna move him lol.
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9 juin 2023 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: Boush
If COL would make that trade straight up without the picks, holy schnikes would I jump on that. But I think you're overvaluing Marty and undervaluing Girard. Girard clocks in as an elite #2D in terms of points and ice time, while being one of the least penalized defensemen over the last five seasons. He's only 17 months older than Fehervary, so I don't think the age is a detriment - if anything, you're trading for a guy playing in his prime on an undervalued contract with significant term.


The problem is that Girard and Sandin are both undersized, offense-first defensemen, and with Fehervary gone one of them is gonna have to take over his role as a shutdown guy. Girard's just not a good fit for the Caps. I'm ok with moving Fehervary, but his replacement's got to be someone who can handle the tough minutes.
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Avs say no thanks at this time. I think they will move Manson before Girard and that is only if it's holding up a reasonable Toews extention.


You're probably right - just keeping seeing Girard pop up in rumors the last two years, and he's fairly high on The Athletic's trade board. I think the Avs would be dumb as hell to trade him.
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9 juin 2023 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: Kalopsia
The problem is that Girard and Sandin are both undersized, offense-first defensemen, and with Fehervary gone one of them is gonna have to take over his role as a shutdown guy. Girard's just not a good fit for the Caps. I'm ok with moving Fehervary, but his replacement's got to be someone who can handle the tough minutes.


Is that a problem? Every other defensemen on the Caps is the same size as Fehervary. Over the last five seasons, of the 201 defensemen who have played as many games as Marty, Girard and Sandin are top-30 in SAT%, and over 50% in all situations. MF is bottom-50 in SAT% (48.1%), bottom-30 relative to his teammates (-3.3), and worst among all Caps defensemen over that timeframe (including Matt Irwin). On a team getting older and losing offensive firepower, having two young defensemen that contribute to offense at top-pairing rates sounds pretty luxurious.
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9 juin 2023 à 17 h 14
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Quoting: Kalopsia
The problem is that Girard and Sandin are both undersized, offense-first defensemen, and with Fehervary gone one of them is gonna have to take over his role as a shutdown guy. Girard's just not a good fit for the Caps. I'm ok with moving Fehervary, but his replacement's got to be someone who can handle the tough minutes.


Disagree on the fit because the caps are uber slow and Girard would help them pick up the pace, especially breaking out of their own zone. And he's actually been a lot better defensively since getting a longer stick at the new year.
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10 juin 2023 à 10 h 52
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Is that a problem? Every other defensemen on the Caps is the same size as Fehervary. Over the last five seasons, of the 201 defensemen who have played as many games as Marty, Girard and Sandin are top-30 in SAT%, and over 50% in all situations. MF is bottom-50 in SAT% (48.1%), bottom-30 relative to his teammates (-3.3), and worst among all Caps defensemen over that timeframe (including Matt Irwin). On a team getting older and losing offensive firepower, having two young defensemen that contribute to offense at top-pairing rates sounds pretty luxurious.


I would guess that has a lot to do with Fehervary playing tougher minutes on a shutdown pairing, which makes it a lot harder to generate offense. Advanced stats like that aren't very useful for comparing defensemen because they have such defined roles, and the type of minutes they get has a huge effect on their numbers.

Quoting: kitkat_2001
Disagree on the fit because the caps are uber slow and Girard would help them pick up the pace, especially breaking out of their own zone. And he's actually been a lot better defensively since getting a longer stick at the new year.


The Caps as a whole may be slow, but Fehervary's one of the fastest skaters in the league. This trade would actually make them slower, although Girard would definitely improve their breakouts.

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10 juin 2023 à 19 h 1
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first cbj trade -- like it a lot, makes sense for both sides
az trade -- great
fehervary/girard swap -- I definitely think that girard is undervalued and fehervary is a bit overvalued by caps fans, but the contract difference still makes me pretty hesitant on it
roslovic -- huge huge pass, literally kuzy but with half as much skill

generally, I feel like with the ~2m saved without the fehervary/girard swap and the 4m saved without bringing in roslovic, you could add a much better top 6 winger for cheap (like Boeser, for example)
 
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