Debrincat Dobson

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Créé par: Mediumyeet

Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York

Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023

Publié: 5 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
DeBrincat, Alex	8	8 000 000 $
Brännström, Erik	2	1 400 000 $
Wahlstrom, Oliver	2	1 200 000 $
Bolduc, Samuel	2	800 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Delia, Collin		1	850 000 $
Mayfield, Scott		4	4 000 000 $

Transactions

NYI

Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]

OTT

Dobson, Noah

NYI

DET

Bailey, Josh
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)

Rachats de contrats

Rick DiPietro: 0 $

Enfoui

Cal Clutterbuck: 600 000 $ (1 750 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	85 500 000 $	84 263 333 $	0 $	0 $	1 236 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Nelson, Brock 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Barzal, Mathew 9 150 000 $9 150 000 $ C, AD UFA - 8	DeBrincat, Alex 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Lee, Anders 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 3	Horvat, Bo 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C NTC UFA - 8	Wahlstrom, Oliver 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Palmieri, Kyle 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Holmström, Simon 863 333 $863 333 $ AD RFA - 1
Martin, Matt 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Cizikas, Casey 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C UFA - 4	Fasching, Hudson 775 000 $775 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Johnston, Ross 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG UFA - 3		MacLean, Kyle 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pelech, Adam 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 6	Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $6 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 7	Sorokin, Ilya 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Delia, Collin 850 000 $850 000 $ G UFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian 825 000 $825 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Brännström, Erik 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD, AG RFA - 1
Bolduc, Samuel 800 000 $800 000 $ DG RFA - 2

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 15

Jfstompers

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I'll gladly take bailey for the pick but the wings haven't been real active in using the cap to add a lot of picks.

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 16

Rags21

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Lol in what world is Dobson worth this much?

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 23

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: Rags21

Lol in what world is Dobson worth this much?

23yr old 6'4 RHD that has back to back 13 goal 50 pt seasons and will be team controlled for another 4years. I'd say that's pretty damn valuable.

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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 24

KrisBeKreame

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Easy and definite no from this Islander fan

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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 30

Rags21

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

23yr old 6'4 RHD that has back to back 13 goal 50 pt seasons and will be team controlled for another 4years. I'd say that's pretty damn valuable.

Relies on the powerplay for almost half his points and horrible in his own defensive zone as well

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 32

bagelbob

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Quoting: Rags21

Lol in what world is Dobson worth this much?

two 50 pt seasons from a 23 year old RD

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 34

Warrior24

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Isles are not trading Dobson.

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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 35

Mediumyeet

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Quoting: Rags21

Relies on the powerplay for almost half his points and horrible in his own defensive zone as well

Okay and so does the older small winger. He's getting traded for here.

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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 37

Rags21

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

Okay and so does the older small winger. He's getting traded for here.

Wow a whole 2 years older than Dobson and also has two 40 goal seasons under his belt lol

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 41

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Mediumyeet

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Quoting: Rags21

Wow a whole 2 years older than Dobson and also has two 40 goal seasons under his belt lol

By relying on the pp and Patrik Kane. You can't use that argument against Dobson and then deny the same thing for debrincat lmao. News flash, PP points are still valuable and special teams typically wins games.

5 juin 2023 à 21 h 49

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Rags21

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

Dobson probably wouldn’t even be on PP1 on that Ottawa team…they would be better off trying to trade DeBrincat for Kandre Miller who better defensively and same amount of points with no PP time

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 15

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

Relies on the powerplay for almost half his points and horrible in his own defensive zone as well

One of the better offensive defenseman in the NHL at 23 YO. Would be the 2nd best D on the rangers by a long shot

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 15

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

Dobson probably wouldn’t even be on PP1 on that Ottawa team…they would be better off trying to trade DeBrincat for Kandre Miller who better defensively and same amount of points with no PP time

K’andre miller isn’t better than Dobson

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 16

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Db1899

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Isles aren’t trading Dobson. He’s pretty much untouchable

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 18

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Rags21

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Quoting: Db1899

K’andre miller isn’t better than Dobson

Lmao ya crazy! Dobson barely had more points when Kandre didn’t play powerplay and he’s way better defensively and way better skater lol

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 18

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Rags21

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Quoting: Db1899

Isles aren’t trading Dobson. He’s pretty much untouchable

You guys act like Dobson is equal to Fox, Makar, Karlsson, etc.

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 22

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

Lmao ya crazy! Dobson barely had more points when Kandre didn’t play powerplay and he’s way better defensively and way better skater lol

Dobson had more primary points than Miller at even strength despite miller getting 250 min more TOI. Miller had a ton of secondary assists which is the least repeatable stat out there.

Miller doesn’t create for his teammates, he benefits from playing with multiple star forwards. Dobson is one of the better chance generators in the NHL among defenseman.

Miller is the definition of mid

K'Andre Miller is already a legit TOP4 defenseman. And we really believe he'd be even better if he had better linemate than Trouba. If he's open to signing a long-term contract, the Rangers should do it. pic.twitter.com/oZgWzFwh5j
— Andy & Rono (@ARHockeyStats) March 20, 2023

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 23

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

You guys act like Dobson is equal to Fox, Makar, Karlsson, etc.

Nope, he’s a top pair caliber RHD who generates offense at a high level with an elite penalty differential

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 23

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Rags21

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Quoting: Db1899

K'Andre Miller is already a legit TOP4 defenseman. And we really believe he'd be even better if he had better linemate than Trouba. If he's open to signing a long-term contract, the Rangers should do it. pic.twitter.com/oZgWzFwh5j
— Andy & Rono (@ARHockeyStats) March 20, 2023

Points are points lol and they’re defensemen. Their first job is to be good at defense which Dobson couldn’t do to save his life

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 26

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

Points are points lol and they’re defensemen. Their first job is to be good at defense which Dobson couldn’t do to save his life

Primary points are much more indicative of true offensive impact. There’s no way you’re gassing up a secondary assist merchant.

Dobson provides significantly more value than Miller. You can find players like K’andre Miller in free agency for cheap.

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 28

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Rags21

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Quoting: Db1899

Lmaooooo you islander fans are some thing else 😂 I’m sure you also think Horvat at $8.5m is a steal

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 36

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As a Devils fan, pains me to say, I’d say Miller by a nose over Dobson. K’Andre’s puck-moving ability is a bit underrated. And he has seemed to have cleaned up the mistakes which haunted him in juniors and college.

As for Cat vs Dobson, I think most teams probably lean DeBrincat…but it really depends on team needs.

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5 juin 2023 à 22 h 36

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Quoting: Rags21

Lmaooooo you islander fans are some thing else 😂 I’m sure you also think Horvat at $8.5m is a steal

What did I say that was wrong?prove me wrong.

Nah horvat sucks

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 41

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Rags21

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Quoting: Db1899

What did I say that was wrong?prove me wrong.

Nah horvat sucks

I guess it’s different because rangers don’t need points from their defensemen since they have fox and islanders need Dobson to score a lot to help their offense. But that said, I am taking Kandre 10/10 times especially for a guy who only started playing the position since college lol

5 juin 2023 à 22 h 43

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Db1899

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Quoting: Rags21

Obviously you’d Take miller, you’re biased. Points are not the only way to evaluate offensive impact. Dobson is the better puck mover, shooter, passer . There is nothing Miller does better to move the puck up the ice.

with Dobson on the ice this season at 5v5, the Islanders scored 3.02 goals/60 at 5v5. with him off the ice, that fell to 2.45 goals/60.
— Michael Clifford (@SlimCliffy) May 18, 2023

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