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Trading 11th 0A

Créé par: bdb
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2023
Publié: 31 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 750 000 $
2850 000 $
1900 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
42 750 000 $
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Allan, Nolan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
CHI
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Rathbone, Jack
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
2.
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NJD
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Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $78 321 250 $850 000 $850 000 $5 178 750 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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31 mai 2023 à 16 h 9
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Why on earth would Vancouver do that
31 mai 2023 à 16 h 14
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Anaheim accepts
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31 mai 2023 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim accepts


hard accepts
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31 mai 2023 à 16 h 38
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Why on earth would Vancouver do that


They want to compete now it seems.
31 mai 2023 à 16 h 45
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Hawks decline. Canucks can keep Rathbone; Hawks will keep Allen. Canucks can have their choice of those two 2nd's but not both. Hawks will replace the 2nd Canucks don't choose with the '23 Dallas 3rd. That's as much as Hawks offer for Boeser.
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31 mai 2023 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks decline. Canucks can keep Rathbone; Hawks will keep Allen. Canucks can have their choice of those two 2nd's but not both. Hawks will replace the 2nd Canucks don't choose with the '23 Dallas 3rd. That's as much as Hawks offer for Boeser.


And what are you offering for the 11OA?

The way I see it is 2024 2nd for Boeser and 19+55 for 11. Fair enough on the Allan/Rathbone swap, I figured it was a lateral move with Rathbone being an offensive D and Allan being a defensive D.

Keep in mind AZ moved 11 for 27+35+45 iirc and Bjorkstrand who had 4 years@5.4 left went for a 3rd and 4th.
31 mai 2023 à 16 h 57
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Rathbone is fast approaching bust or AHL/NHL tweener roster filler. Allen is a recent 1st round pick developing and progressing as expected. Remove both Allen & Rathbone and you'll get to pick whichever one of the 2nds you would prefer, but certainly not both. Maybe some neogtiating from there into the Ottawa 2nd or a mid round pick getting added to one of the others.
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31 mai 2023 à 16 h 59
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Let's stop trading Boeser to CHI. He's a fine player, but doesn't exactly fit our "window". We'll take on cap dumps. Poolman/Pearson fine. TMyers also fine, but imo VAN can offload him easy enough. CHI is weaponizing their cap...AND APPROPRIATELY SO. Keep Boeser, Keep Garland, Keep literally anyone...let's just stop pretending the Hawks single purpose of existence is to help out Vancouver with the Cap Problems. The Hawks have options. VAN not nearly as many.
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31 mai 2023 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: bdb
And what are you offering for the 11OA?

The way I see it is 2024 2nd for Boeser and 19+55 for 11. Fair enough on the Allan/Rathbone swap, I figured it was a lateral move with Rathbone being an offensive D and Allan being a defensive D.

Keep in mind AZ moved 11 for 27+35+45 iirc and Bjorkstrand who had 4 years5.4 left went for a 3rd and 4th.


#19 and Canucks choice of the two 2nd's (#55 or Canucks '24 2nd) for #11. The Dallas 3rd for Boeser. Hawks won't pay a 2nd for Boeser. If you think the Canucks can get a 2nd for Boeser, please trade him elsewhere.
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31 mai 2023 à 17 h 18
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As far as the #11 pick goes, the Athletic draft pick value chart has it worth EXACTLY the Tampa 1st and 2nd....as in right on. I like Boeser as a guy that Bedard can play with for a couple season (and maybe if that goes really well....you even try to keep him beyond his contract). But I far from love him or have to have him, much less view him as some significant positive value asset. He is somewhat overpaid (1-1.5 million per) for what he is. Put it this way, if Boeser were a UFA and the Hawks signed him to 2 years 13.3 million my reaction would be that's not great but not terrible and you generally overpay a little in free agency. I swallow on a slightly overpaid Boeser for a couple years to make the swap of 1st with one of the non Hawk 2nds happen. If you view Boeser as slightly overpaid but generally a neutral asset, this makes sense to gain finanical flexibility for the Nucks. If you view him as positive value relative to his contract, you never do what I am talking about. I would even go as far as take Myers as a player to be named later (after his bonus gets paid and it is mostly cap) but the 2nd would need to be the NYR or probably the Hawk 3rd.

So my counter would be #11OA, Boeser, Myers as player to be named (consumated after his bonus gets paid) for #19OA, #67OA and a choice of RFA right to Caleb Jones or Ian Mitchell. Hawks move up consolidating lesser picks, add a useful (slightly overpaid) player in Boeser, and get to rehab Myers in hopes he can be flipped at the deadline. Nucks trade back 8 spots to gain another pick, shed 12.65 in cap space to fill out a roster and add a signifcant UFA/trade piece, and pick up a bottom of the roster D.
31 mai 2023 à 18 h 24
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Please no Gavrikov at that terms and hit. That will become the next Loui. I know the cap will be going up after next season, but that will age horribly and keep this team mired in mediocrity.
31 mai 2023 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
#19 and Canucks choice of the two 2nd's (#55 or Canucks '24 2nd) for #11. The Dallas 3rd for Boeser. Hawks won't pay a 2nd for Boeser. If you think the Canucks can get a 2nd for Boeser, please trade him elsewhere.


Ok, I disagree but makes more sense
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31 mai 2023 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: Waerloza
Please no Gavrikov at that terms and hit. That will become the next Loui. I know the cap will be going up after next season, but that will age horribly and keep this team mired in mediocrity.


Fair enough, I'm not really too keen on him but I suspect that would be the price.
 
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