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Créé par: Grievous
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2023
Publié: 28 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Parayko has not been very good over the past 2 seasons, so a change of scenery in his hometown might help. This trade comes with tonnes of risk, but it is a gamble worth taking.

The trade with Ottawa is to be able to fit the bottom six under the cap. As long as Edmonton is a contender, they will always be at the cap ceiling and cheap contracts are essential.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 875 000 $
2875 000 $
2950 000 $
3787 500 $
2787 500 $
3787 500 $
2787 500 $
31 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
2775 000 $
32 750 000 $
52 875 000 $
2897 500 $
3775 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Kastelic, Mark
  2. Sokolov, Egor [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
2.
EDM
  1. Richard, Guillaume [Liste de réserve]
  2. Rysavy, Martin [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
3.
EDM
  1. Parayko, Colton (750 000 $ retained)
  2. Peterson, Dylan [Liste de réserve]
STL
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Savoie, Carter
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
* Conditional 2024 2nd pick, if Parayko plays in 80% of regular season and 85% of playoff games and Edm reaches the SCF.
Rachats de contrats
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2023
Logo de CGY
Logo de CBJ
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NYR
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2285 500 000 $85 500 000 $850 000 $1 500 000 $0 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C
RFA - 2
897 500 $897 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
787 500 $787 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
787 500 $787 500 $
C
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2

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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 38
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Ottawa declines.

Lavoie is a bust while Kostin's offensive numbers are inflated from playing on the same team as McDavid and Draisaitl.
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 45
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I'd rather keep Parayko than do this trade offer
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 51
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Kastellic is the perfect 4C and OTT isnt going to offload Sharkalov before they get to see what he finally is after spending the time developing him.

OTT declines
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 54
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Columbus declines easily
When you’re trying to dump contracts, you give up picks for others to take the bad deals, you get draft picks AND prospects.
28 mai 2023 à 22 h 15
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Lavoie, is not a bust. He has taken massive strides this season, actually. He is trending to make the team next season. I’ve been following this player, including watching all his games over the past 4 seasons and I wanted to trade him last summer, because I felt he was a bust. This season he really turned his game around.

If you care to read this, here is an excellent summary (with video) on the top goal scorer and the most consistent 5v5 player in Bakersfield this season:

https://oilersnation.com/news/amp/the-edmonton-oilers-prospect-report-raphael-lavoies-2022-23-season-review

Clearly you don’t watch Oilers games on the regular. Kostin wore the same uniform, but barely shared the ice with 97 or 29.

He generated his goals on the 4th line mainly, with some time on the 3rd. Linemates were mainly Janmark, Ryan, Bjugstad and McLeod. He had a primary assist on 2 McDavid goals, 27 Feb vs Boston & 1Mar vs TML.

Draisaitl had 0 points on Kostin’s scoring stats. Klim Shady has a wicked hard shot, scored on an off-wing wrister vs LA in the 1st round that was measured at 97 mph…. He could be a 20 goal scorer in this league as a 3rd liner, but he’s gonna get paid.
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28 mai 2023 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: BlueJacketsandBuckeyes
Columbus declines easily
When you’re trying to dump contracts, you give up picks for others to take the bad deals, you get draft picks AND prospects.


Yes, except these are not a "bad deals". They are quality players, if you think they have negative value then idk what to tell you.
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28 mai 2023 à 22 h 32
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Quoting: sensonfire
Ottawa declines.

Lavoie is a bust while Kostin's offensive numbers are inflated from playing on the same team as McDavid and Draisaitl.


McDavid is so good that he can influence teammates even from the bench! Fun fact: Kostin w/ McDavid = 0+1
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28 mai 2023 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: BlueJacketsandBuckeyes
Columbus declines easily
When you’re trying to dump contracts, you give up picks for others to take the bad deals, you get draft picks AND prospects.


Both players are superior NHL players to most on that Columbus roster today. Add in playoff experience and they are easily worth more than this.

Last I checked Columbus doesn’t have enough NHL calibre players, especially dmen. Kulak was often the 2nd best, and sometimes in the best Dman for Edmonton during these playoffs. He makes too much as a 3rd pair D and he is blocking Broberg, unfortunately Nurse cannot be moved, so Kulak has to go.

Kulak is worth a 2nd right now and would very easily be a top 4 defender on that Columbus blue line (ask any Habs fan) and comes at an extremely low cap hit for that role.

Foegele can be a consistent dominant force (ask any Canes fan, he was a favourite there too), but he is too expensive for the Oilers on the 3rd line where he is blocking Holloway.

Both players make the CBJs better, 3rd and 4th rounders are an excellent bargain for that. Both are big, fast and physical, this trade is a literal gift and you are complaining about improving your team for a song.

I lived through a decade of darkness in Edmonton (so many bad teams/players) and I know where Columbus is at right now. I remember my GM trading a 3rd for Nikita Nitkinin’s (a Columbus player) signing rights. The guy was barely a NHL player.

Like I said, this deal is a gift and this helps Columbus immediately and has way more value than any of those distant draft picks.
28 mai 2023 à 22 h 37
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You made our team worse IMO. I love addition of Engvall, but that 4th line is a huuuge risk. Im not a fan of going into the season with line full of rookies.

Did you watch the playoffs? Kulak was our best dman, he is playoff performer. And please, dont even think about Holl, he is tragic.

And hathaway is signing for +-2M.
28 mai 2023 à 22 h 57
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You made our team worse IMO. I love addition of Engvall, but that 4th line is a huuuge risk. Im not a fan of going into the season with line full of rookies.

Did you watch the playoffs? Kulak was our best dman, he is playoff performer. And please, dont even think about Holl, he is tragic.

And hathaway is signing for +-2M.


I disagree. Holl is very good and in Toronto there is no middle ground, you are either great or you are garbage (see Ceci/Barrie). Once they hate you there, the narrative sticks.

Luke Fox had great things to say about the player and 3rd pair is a perfect spot for Holl.

That 4th line might get 5-7 minutes a night. By the end of the season they will be ready for the playoffs….the only way to have bargain contracts is to take a chance on inexperienced players (see Kostin)

Broberg needs to play, so Kulak needs to go…
28 mai 2023 à 23 h 6
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I'd rather keep Parayko than do this trade offer


Parayko holds the cards here, but he also been poor for 2 seasons. I think Management would be relieved to get rid of his contract. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Edmonton would be the only place he’d waive his NTC to go to according to this article:

https://thehockeynews.com/.amp/news/could-the-st-louis-blues-trade-colton-parayko-this-summer
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29 mai 2023 à 1 h 13
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Blues don’t touch this
Couple firsts for Parakyo unretained is the start lol
29 mai 2023 à 1 h 15
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Parayko holds the cards here, but he also been poor for 2 seasons. I think Management would be relieved to get rid of his contract. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Edmonton would be the only place he’d waive his NTC to go to according to this article:

https://thehockeynews.com/.amp/news/could-the-st-louis-blues-trade-colton-parayko-this-summer


Eh poor is relative tbh
He was really good in the last 3/4 of this year but just had 2 awful partners in leddy and Krug
29 mai 2023 à 1 h 33
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Quoting: xercuses
Eh poor is relative tbh
He was really good in the last 3/4 of this year but just had 2 awful partners in leddy and Krug


Since the Cup win, Parayko’s game has eroded.
The numbers bear this out and the difference since the SC season and the last 4 seasons is stark. He is a below average top 4 defender.

http://puckiq.com/players/8476892?player=8476892&season=all&group_by=player_season_team

As you can see, the sample size is not small. He is not worth a 1st. Also, if the reporting is true, the Oilers are the only team he will accept a trade to, so there will be no 1st pick in a trade for him.
29 mai 2023 à 3 h 31
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Quoting: sensonfire
Ottawa declines.

Lavoie is a bust while Kostin's offensive numbers are inflated from playing on the same team as McDavid and Draisaitl.


Lavioe was hurt at the beginning of the season then proceeded to score 42 points in 49 games.

Your logic on Kostin might be the stupidest thing I’ve read in these posts & that’s saying something.
29 mai 2023 à 8 h 6
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Lavioe was hurt at the beginning of the season then proceeded to score 42 points in 49 games.

Your logic on Kostin might be the stupidest thing I’ve read in these posts & that’s saying something.


In the AHL.

Your trolling is the weakest I have ever seen on this site & that's saying something.
29 mai 2023 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: Grievous
Parayko holds the cards here, but he also been poor for 2 seasons. I think Management would be relieved to get rid of his contract. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Edmonton would be the only place he’d waive his NTC to go to according to this article:

https://thehockeynews.com/.amp/news/could-the-st-louis-blues-trade-colton-parayko-this-summer


Hockeynews is a horrible news outlet. Parayko has was never asked to waive his NTC and the blues never approached him to waive his NTC. People speculated he could be moved but none of the blues reporters or insiders said that the blues approached Parayko to see where he would waive his NTC
29 mai 2023 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: sensonfire
In the AHL.

Your trolling is the weakest I have ever seen on this site & that's saying something.


Thanks for this amazing discourse, so rewarding.
29 mai 2023 à 10 h 15
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Thanks for this amazing discourse, so rewarding.


You're welcome.
29 mai 2023 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Grievous
Since the Cup win, Parayko’s game has eroded.
The numbers bear this out and the difference since the SC season and the last 4 seasons is stark. He is a below average top 4 defender.

http://puckiq.com/players/8476892?player=8476892&season=all&group_by=player_season_team

As you can see, the sample size is not small. He is not worth a 1st. Also, if the reporting is true, the Oilers are the only team he will accept a trade to, so there will be no 1st pick in a trade for him.


Yea then blues won’t trade him for garbage, which is really all the oilers have to offer
 
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