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A deal both Toronto and Edmonton fans will scream at

Créé par: dls9
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2023
Publié: 18 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Leafs move Marner for a replacement + cap Space and buy a player with some more bite from FA
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2900 000 $
35 300 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
55 250 000 $
21 200 000 $
54 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
RNH Will never score 100 points again. He's a 70 point guy on the decline, but only costs 5M. Marner is a top 3 RW in the league. Oilers make the "Kawhi" deal brining in a top 3 winger
EDM
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Détails additionnels:
Leafs downgrade from a 100 (99, whatever) point guy to an aging C/LW in RNH, but shaves off almost 6M in Cap to buy in Free Agency
2.
TOR
  1. Miller, K'Andre [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de NYI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 969 283 $0 $0 $2 530 717 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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18 mai 2023 à 14 h 19
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We have the passion
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Actually... Makes sense
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 20
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If edmonton can shed cap in this deal or through another team than fs why not I mean Marner and Mcdavid on one line would literally shatter the earth
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 22
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Why on earth would Edmonton fans get mad at this lmao
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 22
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To be brutally honest, this trade seems horribly lopsided in favor of Edmonton and downright reckless for Toronto.

First and foremost, the Toronto Maple Leafs would be giving up Mitchell Marner, one of the premier wingers in the league. Marner is a phenomenal playmaker and a consistent 90+ point producer, and at his age, he has plenty of elite-level play ahead of him. Trading away such a valuable asset for an older, declining player like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is a catastrophic misjudgment of value.

Furthermore, Nugent-Hopkins is a good player, but calling him a "70 point guy on the decline" is almost generous. Realistically, he's more of a 50-60 point player now, and he's likely to continue sliding as he gets older. He may be cheaper, but the drop in production from Marner to Nugent-Hopkins is far steeper than the drop in their respective cap hits. Toronto would essentially be sacrificing their team's competitive strength to save a bit of money, which doesn't make sense for a team that's trying to win now.

Additionally, the so-called "Kawhi" deal comparison is deeply flawed. When the Toronto Raptors traded for Kawhi Leonard, they were getting an MVP-caliber player who could carry the team to a championship - which he did. Marner is a great player, but he's not on the same level as Kawhi was during his prime, and he's not the type of player who can single-handedly lead a team to a Stanley Cup.

The Leafs' apparent plan to use the saved cap space to buy in Free Agency is also dubious at best. Top-tier free agents are rarely available, and when they are, they usually demand contracts that are just as expensive, if not more so, than Marner's. Toronto would be taking a huge risk by hoping that they can find a player of Marner's caliber in Free Agency, especially considering that such players are few and far between.

All in all, this trade is a disaster for Toronto. They would be giving up an elite player in his prime for a declining one, all while jeopardizing their competitive prospects in the hope of saving some cap space. It's an inexplicable move that would only serve to set the team back years in their pursuit of a championship.
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18 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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Rangers pass, K'Andre is a core piece on D and not being traded.
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18 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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2 late firsts wont get you miller.
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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No thanks, I can interest you in an one for one about Goodrow for Knies? wink
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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Yeah, that Marner for RNH isn't worth it. First the value is off by a considerable amount and RNH will come with a term of 6 years. Not a fan of that, especially for a declining player that you mentioned yourself.
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 28
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Loved Miller until he spit in a guys face.
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: tmljk22
Why on earth would Edmonton fans get mad at this lmao


because Nuge is a fan favorite we almost worship him like a god because he stuck around in the decade of darkness when he could have easily walk to FA, and has stated multiple times that he wants to play his entire career as an Oiler, that right there makes him extremely important since the Oilers have a hard time getting free agents to come to Edmonton even with Connor and Leon on the team. Nuge is the definition of what it means to be an Oiler just like Ryan Smyth.
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18 mai 2023 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: TheDroakner97
because Nuge is a fan favorite we almost worship him like a god because he stuck around in the decade of darkness when he could have easily walk to FA, and has stated multiple times that he wants to play his entire career as an Oiler, that right there makes him extremely important since the Oilers have a hard time getting free agents to come to Edmonton even with Connor and Leon on the team. Nuge is the definition of what it means to be an Oiler just like Ryan Smyth.


Oh that’s makes a lot more sense, had no idea he was such a fan favourite.
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18 mai 2023 à 15 h 25
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Two late 1sts for Miller definitely gets Drury's attention, but it's gonna need some frosting, especially with Drury having no reason to trade Miller.
18 mai 2023 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
Two late 1sts for Miller definitely gets Drury's attention, but it's gonna need some frosting, especially with Drury having no reason to trade Miller.


There is pretty much zero chance that gets Drury's attention lmao
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