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Oil Country Lets realistically ride - feedback please

Créé par: SamySeif
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 16 mai 2023
Publié: 16 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
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Not saying this trade has to be to Arizona specifically. Just a trade to a team in general that requires as minimal to no salary coming back if possible (similar to Puljujarvi to Carolina). I am a fan of Kailer; however, it's hard to justify the cap for the needs of this team.
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EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
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Does not need to be the Sabres. Just again a hypothetical move that clears the full cap on Ceci. I understand that the Oilers will have to add an asset to make this work due to the fact that he has 2 years remaining. I am not sure if a 2 round drop is enough, but it's an option.
BUF
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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16 mai 2023 à 19 h 11
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It won’t cost to move Ceci. It definitely won’t cost a 2nd. A team will take him for free. He’s still more than serviceable. However, the Oil should keep him. He gels well with Nurse and only has a couple of years left. Severson will make much more than that.
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16 mai 2023 à 19 h 12
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Don't think the Oilers need to pay to dump Ceci nor should they, had a rough last game but is still an okay 2nd pair RHD without a massive contract.

Severson would cost quite a bit more then that.
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16 mai 2023 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Don't think the Oilers need to pay to dump Ceci nor should they, had a rough last game but is still an okay 2nd pair RHD without a massive contract.

Severson would cost quite a bit more then that.


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Don't think the Oilers need to pay to dump Ceci nor should they, had a rough last game but is still an okay 2nd pair RHD without a massive contract.

Severson would cost quite a bit more then that.


Appreciate the response. He had major struggles this season but there’s been lots of talk about some form of core muscle injury. The frustration isn’t on him as a player, nor his cap.. it’s the ask of the team for him to play top pair right shot minutes. I imagine he will full time be supplemented by Bouchard for that role next year as he continues to take massive leaps and maybe a more sheltered role will help Ceci. The problem is, being paired alongside Nurse you’re asking him to play tough matchups. What’s your projection on a Severson contract? It’s a very weak market for D men no question.
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16 mai 2023 à 19 h 33
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The cup or bust talk from Draisaitl and McDavid should have you guys really worried.
16 mai 2023 à 19 h 33
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
It won’t cost to move Ceci. It definitely won’t cost a 2nd. A team will take him for free. He’s still more than serviceable. However, the Oil should keep him. He gels well with Nurse and only has a couple of years left. Severson will make much more than that.


Appreciate the response. If the Oilers can move Ceci and find a more prototypical shutdown D man in the form of say a Radko Gudas at a similar cost to me that’s a no brainer based on the ask. I actually appreciate Ceci. Feel he’s being asked to do to much. He’s not overpaid by any stretch. The reason I suggest Severson is because he is a free agent therefore doesn’t cost anything besides money. How much do you feel Severson gets on the market? More term, AAV?
16 mai 2023 à 19 h 35
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The cup or bust talk from Draisaitl and McDavid should have you guys really worried.


worried why? this is exactly the thing you wanna hear from your entire roster, especially your superstar players. There is no consolation prize when you’re supposed to be competing for the cup. It’s the right mindset to have every year. There is no scenario of them playing together in any other market.. that’s the reality.
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16 mai 2023 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: SamySeif
worried why? this is exactly the thing you wanna hear from your entire roster, especially your superstar players. There is no consolation prize when you’re supposed to be competing for the cup. It’s the right mindset to have every year. There is no scenario of them playing together in any other market.. that’s the reality.


Do you think they stick around if they can't get it done next season?
16 mai 2023 à 19 h 46
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Do you think they stick around if they can't get it done next season?


Other than Tavares. How many top end players have left their franchises? Hockey players are loyal. McDavid understands this and the core is extremely close, as again noted by there media avails today. Mackinnon took 10 years, Ovi 14, Yzerman 14, Stamkos etc. the reality is the Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy in sports. Some tough experiences this year. But it’s not as if this team is far off. They finished second in the conference in the regular season by a point. Didn’t have Ekholm for 70% of the season and Kane for 50%. Not all experiences are linear.
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16 mai 2023 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Don't think the Oilers need to pay to dump Ceci nor should they, had a rough last game but is still an okay 2nd pair RHD without a massive contract.

Severson would cost quite a bit more then that.


I don’t know if I agree. Severson is a 2nd pair shut down guy, and comparables that signed are
Tanev 4.5M
Larsson 4M
Jensen 4.05M
Manson 4.5M
Gudbranson 4M

Some of those guys like tanev and larsson took less money than their expiring contracts too. If Severson wants to come here for some reason and the Oilers like him, I could see him signing 4X4
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16 mai 2023 à 20 h 3
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Severson's gonna get more than that, doublw that figure and you are there. Buffalo would not be interested in Ceci, hes a 3rd pairing guy.
16 mai 2023 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: SamySeif
Appreciate the response. He had major struggles this season but there’s been lots of talk about some form of core muscle injury. The frustration isn’t on him as a player, nor his cap.. it’s the ask of the team for him to play top pair right shot minutes. I imagine he will full time be supplemented by Bouchard for that role next year as he continues to take massive leaps and maybe a more sheltered role will help Ceci. The problem is, being paired alongside Nurse you’re asking him to play tough matchups. What’s your projection on a Severson contract? It’s a very weak market for D men no question.


Quoting: betterthanholland
I don’t know if I agree. Severson is a 2nd pair shut down guy, and comparables that signed are
Tanev 4.5M
Larsson 4M
Jensen 4.05M
Manson 4.5M
Gudbranson 4M

Some of those guys like tanev and larsson took less money than their expiring contracts too. If Severson wants to come here for some reason and the Oilers like him, I could see him signing 4X4


I'm thinking Severson will be a bit more, somewhere in the $5-5.5M range for 5 to 7 years.
 
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