Carolina laughs so hard it isn't funny. Drop Svechnikov, drop Martinook, restructure around prospects and picks, and retain on that anchor if you want to move it. This is comical. You wouldn't get Svech for Tavares 1 for 1.

Even without Svechnikov and Martinook Carolina declines. Tavares as near negative value without retention

Tavares will not be gone, just let it sink in for a minute. There Tavares will not be moved. We really have 3 movable players out of the core 4 and that's Matthews ( without an extension leafs lose that trade all day every day) Marner although the NMC is a hurdle it's a much smaller hurdle and Marner will have interest from around the league and then it's Nylander the easiest to move but again without an extension a mass haul is out of the question. The best option for the leafs is move Marner and extend both Matthew's and Nylander

No he doesn't your being ridiculous he is still John Tavares a 35+ goal scoring 1 C who averages on a bad year 85 pts

He is barely a PPG playing with superstars. 11 millions for to year is rough, especially at 32. With retention he could get a first but without retention nobody is touching that contract

So we trade our captain for a Russian kid that’s underachieved so far, a role player, a nobody RFA and some scrap picks? That’s a major no.

Well you can have opinion even a ridiculous one, it's a pointless debate when it's clear as day Tavares won't be moved unless Tavares wants to be moved

You are one funny guy.

And this is why the leafs will never win a cup soon

They haven't won a cup since 67, Soni don't think Tavares is the factor in the not winning a cup a soon

And you are one delusional one

Imagine saying Svechnikov has underachieved

Fun fact. Detroit has missed the playoffs 7 straight years. Detroit also has more 2nd round playoff wins than the Leafs in the last decade.

You are right. It is the sweater that causes the team to lose. Not the players. The players can't help but choke while wearing the Leaf.

Correction: Loser Captain.
He is a professional loser.

Tavares had a FULL NMC do all Toronto can do is buy him out. You save around 600k . He's not going anywhere.

Tavares had a FULL NMC do all Toronto can do is buy him out. You save around 600k . He's not going anywhere.

While I won't go this far, I think Tavares is worth a late 1st with moderate retention... Detroit would give 2 2nds. With 3 million retained.

Not what I was implying

Can't argue with the truth, eh?

And the wings at this point are all losers. Keep rebuilding for the rest of time.

He’s done absolutely nothing of note.

AND Detroit still has more 2nd round wins in the last decade than the Leafs.

Even if Detroit misses the playoffs for the next decade, they will still have more second round playoff wins than the Leafs for over two decades.

And yet here you are bragging about your 2nd round wins. I’m sure Yzerman is all about 2nd round wins! Remember when your fans use to actually expect to win? Now you’re battling it out with us lowly leafs about 2nd round wins. Welcome back to the 70s and 80s bud. More mediocre dead wings years to come.